Hi,
somebody tell me what the best tubes (ecc83 and el84) for Orange Ad30 HTC?
I'm need space and 3d sound:-)
best regards
Sebastian
Orange AD30 THC
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Re: Orange AD30 THC
I would recommend electro Harmonix/sovtek ECC83.
They will give you more sparkle than JJ.
For the power valves, either Russian NOS 6P14P EV (My favorite, and long lasting, great sounding Russian military EL84 equivalent made until the 80s), otherwise, any from JJ, EH....
They will give you more sparkle than JJ.
For the power valves, either Russian NOS 6P14P EV (My favorite, and long lasting, great sounding Russian military EL84 equivalent made until the 80s), otherwise, any from JJ, EH....
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Orange AD30 THC
what do you think about tubes el84 golden dragon and TAD el84-str ?
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Re: Orange AD30 THC
Golden Dragon are branded Chinese Shuguang valves. They're good - not a fan of their ECC83 as I find them a bit overly noisy. I see Golden Dragon supposedly are selected for low n9ise floor and sound quality, in which case the rebranding concept is similar to TAD (See below).
TAD isnt a manufacturer, but rebranded valves from various manufacturer, which they have screened and tested by TAD.
That process should ensure that you have a lower failure rate, and perhaps better quality valves.
Groove Tubes does something similar, as well as many rebrander around the world.
They charge a but of a premium, but you get, in theory, slightly better valves in terms of reliability.
For the prices they charge, there may be better options out there. In terms of EL84, I certainly think that genuine NOS 6P14P EV offer better value and quality.
TAD isnt a manufacturer, but rebranded valves from various manufacturer, which they have screened and tested by TAD.
That process should ensure that you have a lower failure rate, and perhaps better quality valves.
Groove Tubes does something similar, as well as many rebrander around the world.
They charge a but of a premium, but you get, in theory, slightly better valves in terms of reliability.
For the prices they charge, there may be better options out there. In terms of EL84, I certainly think that genuine NOS 6P14P EV offer better value and quality.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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Re: Orange AD30 THC
JJ's are what I recommend
Re: Orange AD30 THC
I had 6P14P-EW in vox ac15 and were the best but it orange ad30thc
Now I have Sovtek El84 and are good but ....... without space.
Now I have Sovtek El84 and are good but ....... without space.
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Re: Orange AD30 THC
Get some more 6P14P EV if you can. They really are superb and being extra clarity, improved low and high end in my experience.
In the preamp, you have 2 ECC83 per channel. For each channel, the 1st one is for the 2 gain stages, the 2nd one for the Phase Inverter. Preamp valves last a very long time. Check what you have in there.
I don't really like the JJ ECC83s myself, if find it dark and undefined.
At the end of the day, if the current EL84 are old and worn out, you may need to only replace those?
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Orange AD30 THC
Now I have
channel 1
-TaD 7025 12ax7
- Mesa 12ax7-A - inventer
channel 2
- tungsoul 12ax7
- tungsoul 12ax7 ballance - inventer
and 4 x el84 sovtek
all tubes is new,
I think that little be crisps down.
So, I'm looking for 6P14P-ew, now.
thanks you
channel 1
-TaD 7025 12ax7
- Mesa 12ax7-A - inventer
channel 2
- tungsoul 12ax7
- tungsoul 12ax7 ballance - inventer
and 4 x el84 sovtek
all tubes is new,
I think that little be crisps down.
So, I'm looking for 6P14P-ew, now.
thanks you
Re: Orange AD30 THC
I came for the thc
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Re: Orange AD30 THC
I thought in Canada you could now buy some THC anywhere????
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Orange AD30 THC
yepLes Paul Lover wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:36 pmI thought in Canada you could now buy some THC anywhere????
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Re: Orange AD30 THC
More importantly, can you freely score and AD30 HTC?
They have superb highs too.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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