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Post by joegartside » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:55 pm

Can anyone recommend a good overdrive pedal to use with an orange amp! I am looking for a 60s/70s crunch sort of sound? and something that wont alter the sound of the amp too much!

Tried a big muff...but wasnt very impressed!

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Post by spoonie g » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:59 pm

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Can anyone recommend a good overdrive pedal to use with an orange amp! I am looking for a 60s/70s crunch sort of sound? and something that wont alter the sound of the amp too much!

Tried a big muff...but wasnt very impressed!

Thanks.

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a big muff isnt much of a distortion; definitely more of a fuzz. Do you want a distortion or a overdrive? Difference being, an overdrive will typically boost an already distorting amp, whereas a distortion will be the main source of gain...

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Post by spoonie g » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:11 pm

for overdrives, here are my candidates:

ibanez ts-808 reissues
ibanez ts9dx
Rocktron Austin Gold
boss sd-1


I have played 3 of these pedals. Ideally, trasnparency is the aim for me. The ts-808 ri was a bit of a dissapointment. Sweet and warm, but a bit loose for my application. I liked the TS9dx much more; it was not quite as warm but was clearer and more transparent.

I also like the sd-1. I think it is very clear, but it's been a while since I played one, so it's hard to compare it to the tubescreamers.

I have been suggested the Rocktron by more than a few people as verry transparent, but have never played one.

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Post by joegartside » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:14 pm

Well I play the amp clean most of the time, so I suppose a distortion pedal would be better!

Im after a 'small faces' sort of sound from it...if thats any help?



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Post by irish_admiral » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:37 pm

The Maxon OD-808 is better than the Ibanez TS-808 reissues. Maxon used to make 'em for Ibanez...

If you've got £££ cash to spare, try out some of Pete Cornish's overdrives. Try them before you look at the price, then see if you think they are worth it. He designs them to be used with clean sounds. Reading his customer list is like looking at a Who's Who of rock...


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Post by joegartside » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:56 pm

Cheers, might just give that a go!

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Post by irish_admiral » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:07 pm

Cool. If you've got the cash, I think they're the best you can get. Let us know how the hunt goes!


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Post by spoonie g » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:40 pm

well, if you're going to spend that much money, cornish is the way to go. that, or buy an amp dedicated specifically to distortion.

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Post by bclaire » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:55 pm

I have to say, if you can find an old Marshall Drivemaster you might find you really like it... I have two that I use from time to time and it's pretty cool. Versatile, too, going from a Bluesbreaker-y type of sound to more over-the-top distortion. Plus batteries last a long time... I started my practice of writing the date with Sharpie on my batteries because I couldn't believe how long they were lasting. Like the battery in my "home" Drivemaster (which to be fair doesn't get used all of the time) is from July 2003 and is still going strong. One of my Drivemasters is permanently mounted in my rack for the occasional BIG distortion sound...

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Post by spoonie g » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:04 pm

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I have to say, if you can find an old Marshall Drivemaster you might find you really like it... I have two that I use from time to time and it's pretty cool. Versatile, too, going from a Bluesbreaker-y type of sound to more over-the-top distortion. Plus batteries last a long time... I started my practice of writing the date with Sharpie on my batteries because I couldn't believe how long they were lasting. Like the battery in my "home" Drivemaster (which to be fair doesn't get used all of the time) is from July 2003 and is still going strong. One of my Drivemasters is permanently mounted in my rack for the occasional BIG distortion sound...

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yeah, those and their higher distortion counterpart the shredmaster are great units. If Marshall had any brains they'd still make those, as they fetch quite a bit of dough used. Also, the shredmaster was the benchmark for Kevin Shields (of My Bloody Valentine) and Radiohead's distortion sounds.

Also, for a 2 in 1 deal, the Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde is a good pedal.

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Post by littlefred » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:17 pm

I second the Jekyll & Hyde, plus the Reverend Drivetrain II. Like a Tubescreamer but with better transparency, more gain and better EQ. It doens't sound like you're looking for a distortion pedal really.

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Post by peter6toy » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:43 pm

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The MXR MICRO AMP .... That's the perfect mashine to do it. It was posted before on this board, and so it is. It boosts your amp, but adds no own color. In fact is also used to "boost" a signal after a large number of effects (then the signal is weak ...).

So, that will boost, and not alter your Orange-sound ...

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Post by Electric Warrior » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:14 am

you should try a rangemaster copy.

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Post by irish_admiral » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:08 am

We had the discussion about the MXR micro amp... I think the general conclusion was that if you run it in front of the amp, it will drive it a little harder. If you've got a lot of clean headroom, that won't be a problem. If you don't, it will.

If you put it in the effects loop, then it's not so much of a problem. But as you have an AD30, you don't have a loop...


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Post by irish_admiral » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:15 am

If you do use the amp clean, and if you've got the money, as you're in the UK definitely take time to check out the Pete Cornish effects - I guarantee you won't regret it. As well as his own site, I know Charlie Chandler's stock Cornish effects...

http://www.guitarexperience.com/html/index.php

In fact, Charlie Chandler's have got a whole heap of great pedals if you live down London way. Spend a day there!


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