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Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:44 pm
by pageyzoso
I bought this cabinet at, what I believe was, the first Orange dealer in North America, Xanadu music and Books in Memphis, Tn in either 2000 or 2001. It is not an "old" Orange amp, but I cannot find anything on the internet like it. I am hoping it was one customized at Orange HQ in England. On the panel on the back, the information (watts, type, etc), is written in black marker. Type says LEAD, watts say 300W, and the serial number says 1223. Can anyone PLEASE help me out with what exactly the story is with this amp. Anything would help. Thanks! Jared.

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:26 pm
by a.hun
Hi Jared, welcome to the forum. :)

Sounds like a standard Orange 412, though loaded with Celestion G12T-75 drivers. Have to say these aren't the best match for Orange amps as they can't put out the signature strong low mids so the amp sounds (IMO) pretty weak. For that reason more common were 120W cabs loaded with G12H-30s. There is nothing wrong with the '75s which do work well with many amps including Marshalls, but (again IMO) not so well with Oranges. Easy enough to swap them out if needed and sell / exchange for something else eg H-30s.

Andy.

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:40 pm
by pageyzoso
Thank you, Andy! :)

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:02 pm
by Valvelust
pageyzoso wrote:I bought this cabinet at, what I believe was, the first Orange dealer in North America, Xanadu music and Books in Memphis, Tn in either 2000 or 2001. It is not an "old" Orange amp, but I cannot find anything on the internet like it. I am hoping it was one customized at Orange HQ in England. On the panel on the back, the information (watts, type, etc), is written in black marker. Type says LEAD, watts say 300W, and the serial number says 1223. Can anyone PLEASE help me out with what exactly the story is with this amp. Anything would help. Thanks! Jared.
Pull the back off and let's see exactly what's in there! :wink:

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:37 pm
by Gladmarr
...or take a handle off the side and look in there without spending the week it would take to get the back panel off and back on.

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:57 pm
by pageyzoso
Gladmarr, how can I take the handle off the side, without breaking it? So taking the back off would be a big deal, huh? Glad you told me that because I was thinking about taking the screws out and seeing exactly what speakers are in there. I love playing through Orange amp, but I know nothing about the inner workings of them, or any amp for that matter. :)

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:52 am
by Gladmarr
Oh yeah!! You have a point there. I don't know specifically what kind of handles are on your cabinet. If it's an early 70s cabinet, the handles are riveted on, so you can't take it off. The rear panels are VERY well fit, so it will take a while to get in there, but it can be done. Just be careful/patient. You don't want to rush and risk doing any damage to the cabinet or tolex.

Re: Orange 300W Custom (?) 4x12 Lead Cabinet

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:35 pm
by Valvelust
pageyzoso wrote:Gladmarr, how can I take the handle off the side, without breaking it? So taking the back off would be a big deal, huh? Glad you told me that because I was thinking about taking the screws out and seeing exactly what speakers are in there. I love playing through Orange amp, but I know nothing about the inner workings of them, or any amp for that matter. :)
If you have a cordless screwdriver or drill its quick. Also it's good to see if those speakers are wired correctly!

I had a BIG :shock: surprise with my 70's 4X12 when I found it wired all out of phase...