about point-to-point circuit boards or printed ones

[Reginald]

hi, i'ld like to know in which year Orange started using printed circuit board.
e.g. Does a '74 Orange 120 head have a printed circuit board or a point-to-point one
could anyone suggest me a site/archive about vintage Orange heads ,expecially about pictures of inside those amps?

[Reginald]

[bclaire]

hi, i'ld like to know in which year Orange started using printed circuit board.
e.g. Does a '74 Orange 120 head have a printed circuit board or a point-to-point one
could anyone suggest me a site/archive about vintage Orange heads ,expecially about pictures of inside those amps?

Well, I was going to suggest the Orange Field Guide but that's where you got the picture from! Look around there- off the top of my head, I'm not sure what exact year the switch was made...

[a.hun]

Hi Reginald,

The switch was never made. Vintage Oranges were always PCB built!

So what? They were WELL built and that is way more imortant. Best not to get too hung up on terms like PCB, PTP, hand wired etc, as the exact method of manufacture doesn't define 'quality' of manufacture.

I have several vintage amps and all were hand wired because that was the only way to do it back then. Doesn't mean they were all built to the same standards. My (JMI era) 'tag board' Vox is a noticably cheaper built amp than my old Orange or Hiwatt. The PCB Orange was very well built with higher quality components. The 'turret board' built Hiwatt - well they defined build quality and reliability. But that (or pure PTP which is a little different and much less neat - typical true PTP looks like a real birds nest!), doesn't make an amp intrinsically 'better' than a PCB one. It is way more down to layout, quality of build and components!
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=198983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interestingly where you can compare truly similarly well built vintage amps built PTP or PCB (like certain Marshall models which were put out in both forms!) there need be no significant long term reliabiliy differences...
See this thread, especially posts #15 and #22 from my old tech who knows his stuff better than most of us:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=279731" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and this one...
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ht=printed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Andy.

[bclaire]

Hi Reginald,

The switch was never made. Vintage Oranges were always PCB built!

So what? They were WELL built and that is way more imortant. Best not to get too hung up on terms like PCB, PTP, hand wired etc, as the exact method of manufacture doesn't define 'quality' of manufacture.

I have several vintage amps and all were hand wired because that was the only way to do it back then. Doesn't mean they were all built to the same standards. My (JMI era) 'tag board' Vox is a noticably cheaper built amp than my old Orange or Hiwatt. The PCB Orange was very well built with higher quality components. The 'turret board' built Hiwatt - well they defined build quality and reliability. But that (or pure PTP which is a little different and much less neat - typical true PTP looks like a real birds nest!), doesn't make an amp intrinsically 'better' than a PCB one. It is way more down to layout, quality of build and components!
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=198983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interestingly where you can compare truly similarly well built vintage amps built PTP or PCB (like certain Marshall models which were put out in both forms!) there need be no significant long term reliabiliy differences...
See this thread, especially posts #15 and #22 from my old tech who knows his stuff better than most of us:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=279731" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and this one...
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ht=printed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Andy.

Andy, you're good!

[a.hun]

Nah, just a touch obsessed...


Andy.