Most over-rated well know guitarist...

MarcusBlacksmith · Post by **MarcusBlacksmith** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:59 am

Okay, I'll bite.

No particular culprit in mind...but, every 'new gen' guitarist who plays straight beats with minor chords and considers themselves the 'experimental and melancholy'.

Guys, Roy Orbison nailed being sad in the 60's, and Elvis Costello nailed experimental melancholy in the 70's. And both of them knew how to use a major chord as a counterpoint to a minor

LeonC · Post by **LeonC** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:59 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MarcusBlacksmith
 No particular culprit in mind...but, every 'new gen' guitarist who plays straight beats with minor chords and considers themselves the 'experimental and melancholy'.
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hahah! I'm with you there, LOL, pretty funny description. I just don't like the guys who never fit any improvisation into their music or who improvise/solo poorly--they're just "half musicians" in my book. That's such an important part of being a 'modern' musician IMO, and anyone who doesn't incorporate that into their music will almost always wind up disappointing me.

I've got a love/hate thing about Carlos' playing. I love what he created 35 years ago...and I hate how his playing hasn't evolved in over 25 years. He's like a caricature of himself at this point.

Bentfinger · Post by **Bentfinger** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:15 am

Slash . Can't see the big deal with a guy who ripped off Marc Bolan's tophat...
Steve Vai is a great player, but most of his stuff is hard to listen to at times.
Neal Young can write but his tone sux.

Mofmog · Post by **Mofmog** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:50 am

I actually like many of the guitarists mentioned here. They had something to offer and I actually like most of their tones. BUT THE GUY WHO GETS ON NERVES IS STEVE VAI.

Look, I don't care if you have a fricken PhD. in music. No amount of theory, schooling or technical talent can make up for the fact that your song writing is both anemic and masturbatory at the same time. Yea, that whole "connection with your instrument" thing only works when the audience can sit through the first minute of listening to you. At least Satch wrote some pretty catchy guitar tunes.

(BTW the sitar on For the Love of God sounds like MIDI)

Wendigo · Post by **Wendigo** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:54 am

I'm sorry if I offend anybody with this, but I'm going to vote for Dimebag Darrel. What the hell does anybody see in this guys guitar playing? He reminds me of somebody who would be more at place rumaging through my trash for a tidbit than somebody who should have graced so many guitar mag covers in the 90's...My theory is that there was such a sh**y selection to choose from at the time, and that he just defaulted as the lesser of several evils.

Norrin Radd · Post by **Norrin Radd** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:59 am

Oh yeah - this thread is a real winner! Great idea! (much sarcasm intended).

BrianFantana · Post by **BrianFantana** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:07 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Norrin Radd
 Oh yeah - this thread is a real winner! Great idea! (much sarcasm intended).

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No offense, but if you dislike this particular thread so much, why continue to post on it?

Not trying to make any enemies, just making an observation.

customandrew · Post by **customandrew** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:21 am

this thread does suck lol

Norrin Radd · Post by **Norrin Radd** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:22 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BrianFantana
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Norrin Radd
 Oh yeah - this thread is a real winner! Great idea! (much sarcasm intended).

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No offense, but if you dislike this particular thread so much, why continue to post on it?

Not trying to make any enemies, just making an observation.
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I'm hoping it gets killed! Locked and gone away!!!

Seriously though, it's such a subjective personal preferences type of question and really only serves to raise the ire of those who may like a particular artisit who gets bashed. For example, if I were a huge Kenny G fan and everyone here started bashing Kenny G, I might feel personally attacked (even though I shouldn't - personally I'm a little more thick skinnned than that- you have to be if you like PRS and are willing to stick around here! [:p])

I just dislilke the animosity that such a thread can create. I mean look above - Jimmy Page over rated? Jeff Beck over rated? Wow. What about the guy from Ugly Kid Joe? Right - the thread really only hits on guys who are very well known to begin with. And I think anyone that well known is probably not "over rated" and is well known for a good reason. Again though, just my two cents.

Oh, and just becasue I "don't like it" doesn't mean I won't visit and post on it. After all, If I didn't, how could I answer direct questions (like yours

)?

And no worries either, I'm not easily offended!

MarcusBlacksmith · Post by **MarcusBlacksmith** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:29 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I actually like many of the guitarists mentioned here. They had something to offer and I actually like most of their tones. BUT THE GUY WHO GETS ON NERVES IS STEVE VAI.

Look, I don't care if you have a fricken PhD. in music. No amount of theory, schooling or technical talent can make up for the fact that your song writing is both anemic and masturbatory at the same time. Yea, that whole "connection with your instrument" thing only works when the audience can sit through the first minute of listening to you. At least Satch wrote some pretty catchy guitar tunes.

(BTW the sitar on For the Love of God sounds like MIDI)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Steve Vai was a good guitarist when he stuck to playing the solos for Frank Zappa in the early 80s.

Once he went his own way, he kept the same sound but lost all the originality and dirty words

BrianFantana · Post by **BrianFantana** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:34 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Norrin Radd
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BrianFantana
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Norrin Radd
 Oh yeah - this thread is a real winner! Great idea! (much sarcasm intended).

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

No offense, but if you dislike this particular thread so much, why continue to post on it?

Not trying to make any enemies, just making an observation.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I'm hoping it gets killed! Locked and gone away!!!

Seriously though, it's such a subjective personal preferences type of question and really only serves to raise the ire of those who may like a particular artisit who gets bashed. For example, if I were a huge Kenny G fan and everyone here started bashing Kenny G, I might feel personally attacked (even though I shouldn't - personally I'm a little more thick skinnned than that- you have to be if you like PRS and are willing to stick around here! [:p])

I just dislilke the animosity that such a thread can create. I mean look above - Jimmy Page over rated? Jeff Beck over rated? Wow. What about the guy from Ugly Kid Joe? Right - the thread really only hits on guys who are very well known to begin with. And I think anyone that well known is probably not "over rated" and is well known for a good reason. Again though, just my two cents.

Oh, and just becasue I "don't like it" doesn't mean I won't visit and post on it. After all, If I didn't, how could I answer direct questions (like yours

)?

And no worries either, I'm not easily offended!

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Thanks for your intelligent and polite response.

Lets be friends!!!

customandrew · Post by **customandrew** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:11 am

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Thanks for your intelligent and polite response.

Lets be friends!!!

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agreed

Orphin · Post by **Orphin** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:06 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What about the guy from Ugly Kid Joe? Right - the thread really only hits on guys who are very well known to begin with. And I think anyone that well known is probably not "over rated" and is well known for a good reason. Again though, just my two cents.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
 
Naa, I don't agree. How could I find the guitarist from Ugly kid joe overrated when I don't even know who it is?
I'm talking about the meaning of the word here.
Last time I saw or heard anything about that guitarist was about in '92 when I last saw the video to Cats in the cradle. Not overrated!

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Lets be friends!!!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
 
I believe two can have different opinions and still be friends!

Let's sing combaya!

Doombass, I couldn't quote you now, your post was too far back. Anyway, I don't know much about Janne Schaffer at all tbh so I have no opinion. I recently saw a commercial on TV about a documentary about him. I'd like to see it but I guess I have already missed it.

renton · Post by **renton** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:34 pm

Jimi hendrix???

Satanic_Versus · Post by **Satanic_Versus** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:53 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Luke
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by teenagekick
 Jimi page is a guitar legend! He can play anything you throw at him and his improvising is just mind numbingly incredible. Listen to heartbreaker live in Ã¢â‚¬Å“how the west was wonÃ¢â‚¬

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