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1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:28 am
by steamboat
Here's another one for you Billy!
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:14 am
by Sooner
Interesting.
So putting those prices in today's perspective.... the Dollar/Pound exchange rate back then was 2:1 so double the price to convert to US dollars. Then multiply by 3.48 to adjust for inflation and you get the equivalent cost in today's dollars. That means back then you could get a hand wired PTP 120 watt head for the equivalent of about $1600 today. What a bargain considering currently 100 watt PCB heads are listing for well over $2000.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:40 pm
by bclaire
Wow... that's cool! Thanks for sharing - is that £ or $..?
Edit: nevermind - just saw the bit about VAT so £££
FYI: I changed the hosting of the picture to my site so no dealing with Photobucket.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:46 pm
by bclaire
£48.79 for a Jimmy Bean Voice Box seems to be a strangely specific price.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:27 pm
by Gladmarr
Sooner wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:14 am
Interesting.
So putting those prices in today's perspective.... the Dollar/Pound exchange rate back then was 2:1 so double the price to convert to US dollars. Then multiply by 3.48 to adjust for inflation and you get the equivalent cost in today's dollars. That means back then you could get a hand wired PTP 120 watt head for the equivalent of about $1600 today. What a bargain considering currently 100 watt PCB heads are listing for well over $2000.
Not to be
that guy but Orange amps were PCB since like 69 or 70. They wouldn’t be PTP wiring in the late 70s. I’ve only seen ORSTs that used tag board instead of a PCB. Maybe an OR200 would count as PTP and those were built into the early/mid 70s.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:53 pm
by steamboat
bclaire wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:40 pm
Wow... that's cool! Thanks for sharing - is that £ or $..?
Edit: nevermind - just saw the bit about VAT so £££
FYI: I changed the hosting of the picture to my site so no dealing with Photobucket.
Yeah, no problem, I know you like to pin these types of things in the serial numbers section. so feel free too.
Thanks for cleaning up the picture, i hate how photobucket is doing that now. Is this something we have to deal with now or is there a better way to get pics loaded to the forums?
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:57 pm
by steamboat
Gladmarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:27 pm
Sooner wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:14 am
Interesting.
Not to be
that guy but Orange amps were PCB since like 69 or 70. They wouldn’t be PTP wiring in the late 70s. I’ve only seen ORSTs that used tag board instead of a PCB. Maybe an OR200 would count as PTP and those were built into the early/mid 70s.
this be very true... But, not near the same type of boards though correct? I feel like the boards in the old amps are just for a place to mount the components, they aren't like today's boards that actually send signals through them correct? Seems like they almost were PTP but just not as cleanly wired as the modern PTP orange amps?
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:01 pm
by steamboat
bclaire wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:46 pm
£48.79 for a Jimmy Bean Voice Box seems to be a strangely specific price.
HAHA, yea i was thinking the same thing with the pricing of a few items...Do you own a jimmy bean voice box billy? Cant imagine there are many orange pedals from the 70's still around.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:26 pm
by bclaire
steamboat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:01 pm
bclaire wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:46 pm
£48.79 for a Jimmy Bean Voice Box seems to be a strangely specific price.
HAHA, yea i was thinking the same thing with the pricing of a few items...Do you own a jimmy bean voice box billy? Cant imagine there are many orange pedals from the 70's still around.
Yeah, I still have one. It's cool but I have only used it once....
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:28 pm
by Sooner
Gladmarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:27 pm
Not to be
that guy but Orange amps were PCB since like 69 or 70. They wouldn’t be PTP wiring in the late 70s. I’ve only seen ORSTs that used tag board instead of a PCB. Maybe an OR200 would count as PTP and those were built into the early/mid 70s.
Fair point. But at least the Overdrive Series didn't have the valve sockets, input jacks, potentiometers, etc. mounted on the PCB. Overall much better build quality than today.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:24 pm
by Gladmarr
Sooner wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:28 pm
Fair point. But at least the Overdrive Series didn't have the valve sockets, input jacks, potentiometers, etc. mounted on the PCB. Overall much better build quality than today.
I get it. Partially ptp.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:28 pm
by Gladmarr
steamboat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:57 pm
this be very true... But, not near the same type of boards though correct? I feel like the boards in the old amps are just for a place to mount the components, they aren't like today's boards that actually send signals through them correct? Seems like they almost were PTP but just not as cleanly wired as the modern PTP orange amps?
There’s no difference between the function of PCBs from the 60s/70s and the function of PCBs now. The biggest difference between the PCBs from back in the day and modern PCBs is the green soldermask and white silkscreen with text it.
There aren’t any production Orange amps now that are PTP at all (that I know of). Almost every part of the amp is mounted on a PCB.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:39 pm
by bclaire
bclaire wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:26 pm
steamboat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:01 pm
bclaire wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:46 pm
£48.79 for a Jimmy Bean Voice Box seems to be a strangely specific price.
HAHA, yea i was thinking the same thing with the pricing of a few items...Do you own a jimmy bean voice box billy? Cant imagine there are many orange pedals from the 70's still around.
Yeah, I still have one. It's cool but I have only used it once....
So in the dollars of the day, that was basically $100 USA.
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:19 pm
by steamboat
Gladmarr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:28 pm
steamboat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:57 pm
this be very true... But, not near the same type of boards though correct? I feel like the boards in the old amps are just for a place to mount the components, they aren't like today's boards that actually send signals through them correct? Seems like they almost were PTP but just not as cleanly wired as the modern PTP orange amps?
There’s no difference between the function of PCBs from the 60s/70s and the function of PCBs now. The biggest difference between the PCBs from back in the day and modern PCBs is the green soldermask and white silkscreen with text it.
There aren’t any production Orange amps now that are PTP at all (that I know of). Almost every part of the amp is mounted on a PCB.
Yes you are right about the PCB boards, I just looked at some of my vintage amps.
By modern PTP oranges I meant the tiny terror hard wired, the AD50, Retro 50, The AD Series that where PTP...etc...
Re: 1979 Orange Dealer Pricing Catalog
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:22 pm
by steamboat
bclaire wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:39 pm
bclaire wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:26 pm
steamboat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:01 pm
HAHA, yea i was thinking the same thing with the pricing of a few items...Do you own a jimmy bean voice box billy? Cant imagine there are many orange pedals from the 70's still around.
Yeah, I still have one. It's cool but I have only used it once....
So in the dollars of the day, that was basically $100 USA.
That's pretty neat! Time for some Frampton Covers!