Thunderverb's "big transformers" also on the Dual Dark?

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Thunderverb's "big transformers" also on the Dual Dark?

Post by dflipp » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Hey guys!

So... On Thunderverb I've heard Orange market it as "having bass amp big output transformers". Great for down-tuning heavy tones. Checked! It rocks.

My question is: Does the Dual Dark which is "Thunderverb-based" (it actually "made" TV's go discontinued), share the same "output transformers"? I haven't seen it being "marketed" the same way so... Maybe it doesn't?

I would like to hear your thoughts on this and also on about wihch do you think are the differences between the two. Is is worth to upgrade a Thunderverb 50 to a Dual Dark 100?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Thunderverb's "big transformers" also on the Dual Dark?

Post by Les Paul Lover » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:39 pm

dflipp wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am
Hey guys!

So... On Thunderverb I've heard Orange market it as "having bass amp big output transformers". Great for down-tuning heavy tones. Checked! It rocks.

My question is: Does the Dual Dark which is "Thunderverb-based" (it actually "made" TV's go discontinued), share the same "output transformers"? I haven't seen it being "marketed" the same way so... Maybe it doesn't?

I would like to hear your thoughts on this and also on about wihch do you think are the differences between the two. Is is worth to upgrade a Thunderverb 50 to a Dual Dark 100?

Thanks in advance!
1st in terms of upgrade....

Do you need 100w? Have lacked power on occasions?
Do you like the modern classic tone of the Thunderverb? The dual dark is tighter and more modern sounding.
Would you miss the reverb?

Secondly, I have no idea abiut the transformers.
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Re: Thunderverb's "big transformers" also on the Dual Dark?

Post by afjungemann » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:50 pm

I could be wrong but I think the TV200 is specifically what was marketed for having the large transformer and capable of using bass through.

The TV50, RV50, DD50 likely all share the same transformer. This is my understandings anyway.
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Re: Thunderverb's "big transformers" also on the Dual Dark?

Post by Gorgar » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:57 pm

afjungemann wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:50 pm
I could be wrong but I think the TV200 is specifically what was marketed for having the large transformer and capable of using bass through.

The TV50, RV50, DD50 likely all share the same transformer. This is my understandings anyway.
I think you're right about that. The TV200 had the same transformer as the AD200. It's a *lot* heavier than a TV50.

I spent a few minutes with a Dual Dark while trying out a guitar, and while I liked it, I didn't hear anything in it that would be worth the loss of the reverb, for me. Overall I preferred the looser character of the TV, but if I'd never had one, I might be happy with a DD. I don't think I'd see it as an upgrade unless you hear a difference in sound and really like the DD better.

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