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Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Sooner » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:03 pm

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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by bclaire » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:36 pm

Strange photo angles but what are the features setting off a red flag?

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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by fiveightandten » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:20 pm

Definitely fake.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Jondog » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:46 pm

I'm not greatly familiar with Les Pauls, I've owned one true Gibson Les Paul, but the truss rod cover doesn't look to have the right font. Also, the bridge posts look to be the same as the ones used on Epiphones, not Gibsons.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Sooner » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:55 pm

bclaire wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:36 pm
Strange angles but what are the features setting off a red flag?
Funky custom shop logo on the back of the headstock, slotted studs for the bridge, headstock shape looks off, 13 year-old guitar in mint condition with protective plastic still on the pickguard, seller got it at an estate sale, knows nothing about guitars, and selling as-is no returns.

Case looks fake too. Trademark symbol is in the wrong location.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Jondog » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:46 pm

The “Chibsons” are fairly common now. Theres some good videos on Youtube of guys purposely buying to compare to a real Gibson. Some are absolute junk, some are actually really nice guitars once set-up properly. There paying less than epiphones for them.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by bclaire » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:05 pm

Now that I'm looking at it on my laptop, it definitely is a fake. The treble horn is the wrong shape, too!

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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by fiveightandten » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:24 pm

I reported it. It's sad. I once saw a fake SG at my local guitar center. They took it in on trade and had no idea. They pulled it right off the floor when I pointed it out, but it's scary how these things are in circulation to the degree that they're being sold by reputable shops as real Gibsons.

And they're getting better. This one looks pretty wonky, but they clearly have the 2 screw truss rod cover down now, and it even has binding "nibs" on it.

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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Sooner » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:33 pm

I asked him for more photos because I thought it was a fake. Here's his reply:

"Yea a million members have been telling me that it's fake. I tried to contact ebay but they won't let me take it down without still getting fees. So, I gotta play it out and then cancel the sell once it's complete."

Sounds like BS to me. I reported it as a fake to eBay too. Hopefully they'll remove it for him...
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Sooner » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:40 pm

And they're not just making fake Gibsons now either. Buyer beware!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiZQ2Egcxz8
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Jondog » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:55 am

Sooner wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:33 pm
I asked him for more photos because I thought it was a fake. Here's his reply:

"Yea a million members have been telling me that it's fake. I tried to contact ebay but they won't let me take it down without still getting fees. So, I gotta play it out and then cancel the sell once it's complete."

Sounds like BS to me. I reported it as a fake to eBay too. Hopefully they'll remove it for him...
Definite BS. Everyone knows you can end an item whenever you want.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by fiveightandten » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:55 am

Sooner wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:33 pm
I asked him for more photos because I thought it was a fake. Here's his reply:

"Yea a million members have been telling me that it's fake. I tried to contact ebay but they won't let me take it down without still getting fees. So, I gotta play it out and then cancel the sell once it's complete."

Sounds like BS to me. I reported it as a fake to eBay too. Hopefully they'll remove it for him...
Fees? :lol: You list counterfeit gear, and expect eBay to waive the listing fees? If that were the case, scammers would continually list counterfeit items, regardless of how many times they got taken down. At least there is some monetary drawback to trying to sell a counterfeit item on eBay.
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:40 pm
And they're not just making fake Gibsons now either. Buyer beware!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiZQ2Egcxz8
Crazy. I've seen that video. It's interesting, as they're clearly making copies, but any of the headstocks you can see with logos are branded with some company logo I've never seen before. I don't see anything with a Gibson/Fender/PRS/Jackson logo on it.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Sooner » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:49 am

fiveightandten wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:55 am
Crazy. I've seen that video. It's interesting, as they're clearly making copies, but any of the headstocks you can see with logos are branded with some company logo I've never seen before. I don't see anything with a Gibson/Fender/PRS/Jackson logo on it.
Not showing US logos on the video was probably part of the deal to get the tour. The websites selling them are careful not to show the headstock logo although in some you can see the Gibson custom shop logo on the back of the headstock.
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by fiveightandten » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:16 am

Sooner wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:49 am
Not showing US logos on the video was probably part of the deal to get the tour. The websites selling them are careful not to show the headstock logo although in some you can see the Gibson custom shop logo on the back of the headstock.
Entirely plausible.

Ah, the Custom shop logo...that's the wonkiest part on them! :lol:
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Re: Fake Gibson on eBay?

Post by Mystic38 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:06 pm

add me to the list of folk who emailed him with the same reply..

1*. The bridge posts have screws, real ones are just posts (easiest giveaway)
2. that custom shop on back of headstock?.. lol
3. Serial number is not a CS one
4*. The serial number and "made in USA" are simply too well imprinted with too good a spacing.. Real ones are hand done (and not well)

Until i can fund a 61 reissue, I own a Chibson Angus Young SG and its decent for the $220 direct from China.. its playable with a better than expected tone (ie not godawful..just meh) ..but will put new pups and a new nut in it over the winter.. will be fine for the basement
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