Hi! I want to buy a head but I'm not sure which is the best for the style of music that I play (Post-hardcore / Math rock / Mathcore / Emo)
What I'm looking for is clarity in open chords but with an aggressive sound and hard riffs.
The pedals that I have are an ISP Decimator II and an Ibanez Tube Screamer Mini.
Here is some references:
Joliette - Todos Odian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhjJsiJ2sYE
Sufferer - Chapter II (Then):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9apLgmBrg
Exotic Animal Petting Zoo - Thorough. Modern:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztuiiAs9bz4
Silverstein - Milestone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8sSeulSs7U
Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
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Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
I play in a band that has flavours of post-hardcore (ATDI, Glassjaw), Alt-Rock/Emo (Flyleaf, Tonight Alive) and Post-Metal (Kvelertak, Baroness) <- trust me, it doesn't sound as weird in person.
Anyway I will swear hands down on the AD200 being able to cover pretty much any genre you want. Want clean? Playing dynamics will get you there. Want dirty? just dig in. Want to push it with a distortion/fuzz/overdrive? It'll eat whatever you throw at it.
I've tried various other amps and in the end sold everything else except the Orange as it really covers everything I could hope for.
My pedal chain consists of only a Korg Pitchblack and a Darkglass Alpha Omega Ultra. My basses are a Stingray 5H and a Dingwall Combustion 5.
Cabs I use are either the Orange OBC810 or a Mesa Powerhouse 4x10 depending on how big I want to go.
Amps I have tried:
Darkglass MT900 -> greta sound but just didn't have the physical presence of a tube amp
Sunn 300T -> Also a great sound but too many bells and whistles for me
Orange OB1-300 -> I loved the distortion but it really was more of a stoner sound (Kyuss, QOTSA). Also I never bonded with the clean channel.
Now that being said I have heard good things about the 4 Stroke 500 however have not played one. If you get a chance I'd say to check one of those out with the AD200 and see which you think suits you best.
EDIT:
Shortcomings of the AD200
* No FX Loop (never bothered me)
* No DI (I use either the Darkglass AO:U or a Radial JDX48)
* Limited EQ range (Basically it will sound like an AD200 no matter where you move the dials, just a slightly higher or lower boosted version - this is why I have the AO:U (graphic EQ)).
* Tubes cost a bit to replace when needed (same as any tube amp)
* Heavier than a Class D (go to the gym )
Anyway I will swear hands down on the AD200 being able to cover pretty much any genre you want. Want clean? Playing dynamics will get you there. Want dirty? just dig in. Want to push it with a distortion/fuzz/overdrive? It'll eat whatever you throw at it.
I've tried various other amps and in the end sold everything else except the Orange as it really covers everything I could hope for.
My pedal chain consists of only a Korg Pitchblack and a Darkglass Alpha Omega Ultra. My basses are a Stingray 5H and a Dingwall Combustion 5.
Cabs I use are either the Orange OBC810 or a Mesa Powerhouse 4x10 depending on how big I want to go.
Amps I have tried:
Darkglass MT900 -> greta sound but just didn't have the physical presence of a tube amp
Sunn 300T -> Also a great sound but too many bells and whistles for me
Orange OB1-300 -> I loved the distortion but it really was more of a stoner sound (Kyuss, QOTSA). Also I never bonded with the clean channel.
Now that being said I have heard good things about the 4 Stroke 500 however have not played one. If you get a chance I'd say to check one of those out with the AD200 and see which you think suits you best.
EDIT:
Shortcomings of the AD200
* No FX Loop (never bothered me)
* No DI (I use either the Darkglass AO:U or a Radial JDX48)
* Limited EQ range (Basically it will sound like an AD200 no matter where you move the dials, just a slightly higher or lower boosted version - this is why I have the AO:U (graphic EQ)).
* Tubes cost a bit to replace when needed (same as any tube amp)
* Heavier than a Class D (go to the gym )
Orange Gear:
AD200B MkIII
OBC810
Non-Orange:
Bergantino NXT212
Bergantino Forte D
Woogie Lessie
Laney DBV-410
Basses:
Ernie Ball Stingray 4H
Rickenbacker 4003
Gibson Midtown Signature
Gibson Thunderbird
Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird
Gibson Les Paul Bass
AD200B MkIII
OBC810
Non-Orange:
Bergantino NXT212
Bergantino Forte D
Woogie Lessie
Laney DBV-410
Basses:
Ernie Ball Stingray 4H
Rickenbacker 4003
Gibson Midtown Signature
Gibson Thunderbird
Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird
Gibson Les Paul Bass
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- Rocker
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Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
OU818, are you using that all for guitar or bass?
Rockerverb 100 MKIII
Rockerverb 50 MKIII combo
AD30TC combo
TH30c
Fender Bassman
Fender Princeton
gibson explorer custom
gibson es355
gibson es359
gibson sg custom
gibson les paul custom
gibson les paul standard
gibson les paul studio
gibson melody maker
Rockerverb 50 MKIII combo
AD30TC combo
TH30c
Fender Bassman
Fender Princeton
gibson explorer custom
gibson es355
gibson es359
gibson sg custom
gibson les paul custom
gibson les paul standard
gibson les paul studio
gibson melody maker
Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
You wanna know what’s weird? I would have sworn black and blue that the original post had the word ‘bass’ in it however re-reading it I have no idea why I thought that.
Probably what I get for answering posts before I’ve had my morning coffee.
Well anyway...
I change all my info now to the Rockerverb 100.
Orange Gear:
AD200B MkIII
OBC810
Non-Orange:
Bergantino NXT212
Bergantino Forte D
Woogie Lessie
Laney DBV-410
Basses:
Ernie Ball Stingray 4H
Rickenbacker 4003
Gibson Midtown Signature
Gibson Thunderbird
Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird
Gibson Les Paul Bass
AD200B MkIII
OBC810
Non-Orange:
Bergantino NXT212
Bergantino Forte D
Woogie Lessie
Laney DBV-410
Basses:
Ernie Ball Stingray 4H
Rickenbacker 4003
Gibson Midtown Signature
Gibson Thunderbird
Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird
Gibson Les Paul Bass
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- Rocker
- Posts: 241
- Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:17 pm
- Location: South Dakota
Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
Haha no worries I read the OP like 10 times trying to see where I missed the word “bass.”
Rockerverb 100 MKIII
Rockerverb 50 MKIII combo
AD30TC combo
TH30c
Fender Bassman
Fender Princeton
gibson explorer custom
gibson es355
gibson es359
gibson sg custom
gibson les paul custom
gibson les paul standard
gibson les paul studio
gibson melody maker
Rockerverb 50 MKIII combo
AD30TC combo
TH30c
Fender Bassman
Fender Princeton
gibson explorer custom
gibson es355
gibson es359
gibson sg custom
gibson les paul custom
gibson les paul standard
gibson les paul studio
gibson melody maker
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Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
Current production, it would have to be a dual dark or Rockerverb.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
Rocker 30. I use it for post rock/prog metal. RV100 was too muddy for me.
Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
The dual dark will do it for you, but then, so will literally any other amp. The examples you listed can all be achieved with basically any sizeable amp and some pedals. The cleans in your examples were very compressed, the gain parts very distorted with tight bottom end. You could use a POD and get pretty much identical results.The trademark dynamics of a particular amp don't play into it that much. Not trying to be facetious, I just really think that any amp with some gain will handle it and at that point it becomes personal preference.
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Re: Best head/amp for Post-hardcore / Mathcore / Emo
And that's very sensibly put too!!!Wendigo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:11 pmThe dual dark will do it for you, but then, so will literally any other amp. The examples you listed can all be achieved with basically any sizeable amp and some pedals. The cleans in your examples were very compressed, the gain parts very distorted with tight bottom end. You could use a POD and get pretty much identical results.The trademark dynamics of a particular amp don't play into it that much. Not trying to be facetious, I just really think that any amp with some gain will handle it and at that point it becomes personal preference.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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