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Mike7300 wrote:How loud can the 112 get with my AD30? Is it loud enough for gigs, maybe I don't even need a 2x12?

It gets loud enough. However the 212OB is louder and above all a better sounding cab in every aspect. It's not that much more expensive and is almost as easy to move around. I'd go for it.

Thanks I just ordered an OB and going to sell my CB....if I find the OB still to heavy I'll order the 112.

Mike7300 wrote:Thanks I just ordered an OB and going to sell my CB....if I find the OB still to heavy I'll order the 112.

Good move. You'll be very pleased.

Thats great, I'm sure you won't find it too big , if it's new just be aware that the V30s need breaking in .... this will make a huge difference in how the cab sounds.

Exciting time!!!

Let us know your thoughts when you get it and how you feel it compares to the PPC212.

Mike7300 wrote:Thanks I just ordered an OB and going to sell my CB....if I find the OB still to heavy I'll order the 112.

It's 9.5 lbs (4.3 kg) lighter than the closed back, but it's noticeably more manageable because it's so much smaller. I think you'll be happy with it. Enjoy!

Ronnie Robinson wrote:Thats great, I'm sure you won't find it too big , if it's new just be aware that the V30s need breaking in .... this will make a huge difference in how the cab sounds.

That's not a problem, put the used speakers in the new cab, put the new speakers in the used cab.

-Nick

I was surprised how much more manageable it is to carry. Must be partly because it's shorter in length so easier to pick up!

How many hours of playing does it take to break in the speakers?

Depends on how loud you play..,...You will notice a difference in a couple of weeks but at least 3 months use / 100 hrs I'd say.

Most of the time I have to play in an apartment at a low volume

Congrats on the new cab!

My experience with the OB agrees with everyone here except the weight, specially with me so being used to lugging the ppc112 around. But since you're coming from a CB, the OB size & weight must be a big relief.

Yeah, I can recomend the ppc212 ob as well. What I have done with mine is to make an exact peace of wood which fits the hole in the back, so I have the option of closed back or open. I do prefer the open back though. Another thing I have done is to put a combination of a g12h 30 (Celestion heritage) and a g12m greenback in. Sounds fantastic and also makes it a bit lighter instead of two g12h 30 s or two v30´s. And it sounds much sweeter too.

Bensnake wrote: ↑

Fri May 05, 2017 11:01 pm

However the 212OB is louder and above all a better sounding cab in every aspect.

Never understood this, espically when people advocate building a new back for the OB if you want the (awesome gut punching) projection of the CB, when all you have to do is take the back off for the same effect. A lot easier than building a back for an OB, and the speakers are the same. CB is built better, too. I mean weight and size, totally, OB is way more portable. But I don't get how anyone can say "better sounding" with a straight face.

Gray wrote: ↑

Thu May 11, 2017 6:11 pm

Bensnake wrote: ↑

Fri May 05, 2017 11:01 pm

However the 212OB is louder and above all a better sounding cab in every aspect.

Never understood this, espically when people advocate building a new back for the OB if you want the (awesome gut punching) projection of the CB, when all you have to do is take the back off for the same effect. A lot easier than building a back for an OB, and the speakers are the same. CB is built better, too. I mean weight and size, totally, OB is way more portable. But I don't get how anyone can say "better sounding" with a straight face.

I don't understand it myself. I want my regular 212 to sound better than my 212OB but it doesn't IMO. Yesterday I cranked my Rocker head in an A/B comparison just to see if it was just at lower volume levels that I prefer the OB but I thought the CB were losing even that battle. Maybe there's something wrong with it. I much prefer my 412's over any 212 though my opinion regarding the open vs. closed back 212 still stands.

Mike7300 wrote: ↑

Thu May 11, 2017 2:14 pm

Most of the time I have to play in an apartment at a low volume

They'll never break in at apartment volumes. V30's are particularly robust when it comes to break in and being driven. Maybe it's the amount of doping they have on them. I concur with Ant's post above that it can take weeks or months of high volume playing. I recall mine finally settling in after 3 months or so of about 5 hours of high volume playing per week.

If it were me, I'd swap the speakers in the 2 cabs.

Gray wrote: ↑

Thu May 11, 2017 6:11 pm

Never understood this, espically when people advocate building a new back for the OB if you want the (awesome gut punching) projection of the CB, when all you have to do is take the back off for the same effect. A lot easier than building a back for an OB, and the speakers are the same. CB is built better, too. I mean weight and size, totally, OB is way more portable. But I don't get how anyone can say "better sounding" with a straight face.

From what I've seen, people make backs to have option to have the cabinet *convertible*...not to run it as a closed back cabinet permanently.

To make the OB convertible, you have the guy at Home Depot cut down a 3/4" piece of birch plywood. It takes 2 screws to put it on or take it off. You can do that with a screwdriver at a gig in about 30 seconds.

It's more laborious to take the back off the closed back cab. And then what are you going to do with the input jack? You have to keep the back of the cab right next to it after removing a bunch of screws? Then you're tugging at the wires and trying to position the back in a way that you can have the speaker cable plugged into it. That seems silly.

The closed back has a sound that the OB can't do, and vice versa. People who have the open back can easily make it sound closer to the closed back, but not the other way around, IMO. If you like the sound of the closed back, that's not an issue in the least.

-Nick

can I run music from my iPhone through the cab at a loud volume to break it in?