It gets loud enough. However the 212OB is louder and above all a better sounding cab in every aspect. It's not that much more expensive and is almost as easy to move around. I'd go for it.Mike7300 wrote:How loud can the 112 get with my AD30? Is it loud enough for gigs, maybe I don't even need a 2x12?
Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Moderator: bclaire
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
RV100 MKIII | '75 OR120 | OR100 | OR50 | CS50 | R30H | TT
2 x PPC412
Bax B. | Amp D.
Marshall 1959 HW + 1936V
Fender '65 Super Reverb Reissue
Vox AC30C2X + V212C
Playing Les Pauls and Teles...
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Thanks I just ordered an OB and going to sell my CB....if I find the OB still to heavy I'll order the 112.
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Good move. You'll be very pleased.Mike7300 wrote:Thanks I just ordered an OB and going to sell my CB....if I find the OB still to heavy I'll order the 112.
-
- Orange Master
- Posts: 3148
- Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 3:39 am
- Location: In the beautyful North , UK
- Contact:
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Thats great, I'm sure you won't find it too big , if it's new just be aware that the V30s need breaking in .... this will make a huge difference in how the cab sounds.
-
- Duke of Orange
- Posts: 6821
- Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:08 am
- Location: Derby, England
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Exciting time!!!
Let us know your thoughts when you get it and how you feel it compares to the PPC212.
Let us know your thoughts when you get it and how you feel it compares to the PPC212.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
-
- Orange Master
- Posts: 3845
- Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:18 pm
- Location: Connecticut, USA
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
It's 9.5 lbs (4.3 kg) lighter than the closed back, but it's noticeably more manageable because it's so much smaller. I think you'll be happy with it. Enjoy!Mike7300 wrote:Thanks I just ordered an OB and going to sell my CB....if I find the OB still to heavy I'll order the 112.
That's not a problem, put the used speakers in the new cab, put the new speakers in the used cab.Ronnie Robinson wrote:Thats great, I'm sure you won't find it too big , if it's new just be aware that the V30s need breaking in .... this will make a huge difference in how the cab sounds.
-Nick
'71 GRO100 || '96 OR-80 || AD30 || '64 AC-50 || AC-30TBX || Hiwatt DR504 || HI-TONE HT30
LP Standard || LP Studio || LP Custom Lite || Ric 620 || Ric 360 || MIA Tele || SG 61 RI
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
I was surprised how much more manageable it is to carry. Must be partly because it's shorter in length so easier to pick up!
How many hours of playing does it take to break in the speakers?
How many hours of playing does it take to break in the speakers?
-
- Orange Master
- Posts: 3148
- Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 3:39 am
- Location: In the beautyful North , UK
- Contact:
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Depends on how loud you play..,...You will notice a difference in a couple of weeks but at least 3 months use / 100 hrs I'd say.
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Most of the time I have to play in an apartment at a low volume
-
- Rocker
- Posts: 179
- Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:07 am
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Congrats on the new cab!
My experience with the OB agrees with everyone here except the weight, specially with me so being used to lugging the ppc112 around. But since you're coming from a CB, the OB size & weight must be a big relief.
My experience with the OB agrees with everyone here except the weight, specially with me so being used to lugging the ppc112 around. But since you're coming from a CB, the OB size & weight must be a big relief.
God made man... everything else is made in China!
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Yeah, I can recomend the ppc212 ob as well. What I have done with mine is to make an exact peace of wood which fits the hole in the back, so I have the option of closed back or open. I do prefer the open back though. Another thing I have done is to put a combination of a g12h 30 (Celestion heritage) and a g12m greenback in. Sounds fantastic and also makes it a bit lighter instead of two g12h 30 s or two v30´s. And it sounds much sweeter too.
Les Paul, Orange AD50 CS, ppc 212 ob with 3ow green back heritage (g12h 30) and a greenback (g12m), Boss tuner, Cry Baby, Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress, T-Rex replica and the orange sustain pedal
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
Never understood this, espically when people advocate building a new back for the OB if you want the (awesome gut punching) projection of the CB, when all you have to do is take the back off for the same effect. A lot easier than building a back for an OB, and the speakers are the same. CB is built better, too. I mean weight and size, totally, OB is way more portable. But I don't get how anyone can say "better sounding" with a straight face.
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
I don't understand it myself. I want my regular 212 to sound better than my 212OB but it doesn't IMO. Yesterday I cranked my Rocker head in an A/B comparison just to see if it was just at lower volume levels that I prefer the OB but I thought the CB were losing even that battle. Maybe there's something wrong with it. I much prefer my 412's over any 212 though my opinion regarding the open vs. closed back 212 still stands.Gray wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2017 6:11 pmNever understood this, espically when people advocate building a new back for the OB if you want the (awesome gut punching) projection of the CB, when all you have to do is take the back off for the same effect. A lot easier than building a back for an OB, and the speakers are the same. CB is built better, too. I mean weight and size, totally, OB is way more portable. But I don't get how anyone can say "better sounding" with a straight face.
RV100 MKIII | '75 OR120 | OR100 | OR50 | CS50 | R30H | TT
2 x PPC412
Bax B. | Amp D.
Marshall 1959 HW + 1936V
Fender '65 Super Reverb Reissue
Vox AC30C2X + V212C
Playing Les Pauls and Teles...
-
- Orange Master
- Posts: 3845
- Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:18 pm
- Location: Connecticut, USA
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
They'll never break in at apartment volumes. V30's are particularly robust when it comes to break in and being driven. Maybe it's the amount of doping they have on them. I concur with Ant's post above that it can take weeks or months of high volume playing. I recall mine finally settling in after 3 months or so of about 5 hours of high volume playing per week.
If it were me, I'd swap the speakers in the 2 cabs.
From what I've seen, people make backs to have option to have the cabinet *convertible*...not to run it as a closed back cabinet permanently.Gray wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2017 6:11 pmNever understood this, espically when people advocate building a new back for the OB if you want the (awesome gut punching) projection of the CB, when all you have to do is take the back off for the same effect. A lot easier than building a back for an OB, and the speakers are the same. CB is built better, too. I mean weight and size, totally, OB is way more portable. But I don't get how anyone can say "better sounding" with a straight face.
To make the OB convertible, you have the guy at Home Depot cut down a 3/4" piece of birch plywood. It takes 2 screws to put it on or take it off. You can do that with a screwdriver at a gig in about 30 seconds.
It's more laborious to take the back off the closed back cab. And then what are you going to do with the input jack? You have to keep the back of the cab right next to it after removing a bunch of screws? Then you're tugging at the wires and trying to position the back in a way that you can have the speaker cable plugged into it. That seems silly.
The closed back has a sound that the OB can't do, and vice versa. People who have the open back can easily make it sound closer to the closed back, but not the other way around, IMO. If you like the sound of the closed back, that's not an issue in the least.
-Nick
'71 GRO100 || '96 OR-80 || AD30 || '64 AC-50 || AC-30TBX || Hiwatt DR504 || HI-TONE HT30
LP Standard || LP Studio || LP Custom Lite || Ric 620 || Ric 360 || MIA Tele || SG 61 RI
Re: Question about cab for AD30TC Head
can I run music from my iPhone through the cab at a loud volume to break it in?
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 222 guests