Bi-amping (Dirty amp + clean w/fuzz) HELP!!!
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:25 am
Hi!
Ok, this is not directly related to Orange, but I'm asking here because I trust you guys! And also because I would like to do the same setup…
OK, here it goes…
In my band, other guitarist is playing Marshall JCM 800 and Ampeg VT22. Marshall is on dirty channel and Ampeg is on clean channel. So He (or probably I, because I do all the setups for him, because he is really not a technical person) uses SG running into Boss tuner > Crybaby > custom ABC splitter > A goes to JCM, B goes to Fuzz > Ampeg.
He plays both amps at the same time all the time and both dirty.
So the problems are changing all the time. Mostly we have a problem with Fuzz running into Ampeg. For few years we used Fuzz face clone (Venus fuzz), a very good one, made out of new old stock elements. But lately, Venus is acting strange… like a better is dying all the time. So We were searching for alternative and I brought my old Vox Wah-Distortion, which has a some king of silicon fuzzfece fuzz inside.
The problem here is that when he uses his Crybaby (which is before the splitter), the gain drops like se would fur down the volume on guitar. Really strange. I know that fuzz pedals do all the strange things in chain, but this is something I newer saw before.
At this point, the sound of bot amps is great. But he cannot use a way pedal on both amps, which is crucial for his sound. I know that using way before a fuzz is sometimes not the best choice, but he doesn't mid it. But with this fuzz, wah is just making the signal cleaner and not functioning like a Wah pedal.
I think it is time to invest into a really good AB splitter like Fulltone True Path AB.
I need to try this with passive splitter like Tonebone, but then the signal is passively splitted, and gain goes down.
It would be useful if someone can show me a guitar rig of a major player who uses 2 amps, one dirty and one clean with fuzz. Actually, all the companies that are making splitter pedals are talking about how good their splitter is. But I think we need some more theory behind all this.
Ok, this is not directly related to Orange, but I'm asking here because I trust you guys! And also because I would like to do the same setup…
OK, here it goes…
In my band, other guitarist is playing Marshall JCM 800 and Ampeg VT22. Marshall is on dirty channel and Ampeg is on clean channel. So He (or probably I, because I do all the setups for him, because he is really not a technical person) uses SG running into Boss tuner > Crybaby > custom ABC splitter > A goes to JCM, B goes to Fuzz > Ampeg.
He plays both amps at the same time all the time and both dirty.
So the problems are changing all the time. Mostly we have a problem with Fuzz running into Ampeg. For few years we used Fuzz face clone (Venus fuzz), a very good one, made out of new old stock elements. But lately, Venus is acting strange… like a better is dying all the time. So We were searching for alternative and I brought my old Vox Wah-Distortion, which has a some king of silicon fuzzfece fuzz inside.
The problem here is that when he uses his Crybaby (which is before the splitter), the gain drops like se would fur down the volume on guitar. Really strange. I know that fuzz pedals do all the strange things in chain, but this is something I newer saw before.
At this point, the sound of bot amps is great. But he cannot use a way pedal on both amps, which is crucial for his sound. I know that using way before a fuzz is sometimes not the best choice, but he doesn't mid it. But with this fuzz, wah is just making the signal cleaner and not functioning like a Wah pedal.
I think it is time to invest into a really good AB splitter like Fulltone True Path AB.
I need to try this with passive splitter like Tonebone, but then the signal is passively splitted, and gain goes down.
It would be useful if someone can show me a guitar rig of a major player who uses 2 amps, one dirty and one clean with fuzz. Actually, all the companies that are making splitter pedals are talking about how good their splitter is. But I think we need some more theory behind all this.