help! I am inexperienced in effect pedals

[kosmo88]

Hi friends,

I would like a better clean on my ORANGE OR15H, is quickly dirty...

You think is possible the next connection?


GUITAR -> SwitchA/B (Electro armonix switchblade pedal)

A -> INPUT Head ORANGE OR15H
B -> ORANGE TWO STROKE pedal -> RETURN Head ORANGE OR15H

In this way;
on channel A I have the standard amplifier
on channel B I have a clean enriched by the pedal and amplified only from the end of the head.

Do you think it works? (I don't want to break the amplifier)



Sorry for my english, I'am Italian.


Many thanks!!!

[Jondog]

You're using the Ornge two stroke as a preamp basically. I doubt it would sound good. You're missing the entire tube preamp. Drive pedals generally don't sound good in a loop. Also, you're channel A into the amp won't work because you've interreupted the signal chain by only using the return on the effects loop.

[kosmo88]

Many thanks for a prompt reply.

I Made a big error.

Many thanks!

[kosmo88]

But if i buy the two stroke pedal,
And connect this at fxloop with send and Return,
I have a bad sound?
It is better connect the pedal directly in the input of head?

Many thanks

[Jondog]

It's a boost pedal, best used to boost your signal into the amps preamp so it can push the tubes harder. Thats the best place for it I think. You can get you're clean tone, and then push the amp with the pedal. Depending how much gain you want, a boost pedal might not be enough however. To keep it simple, you could roll back your guitars volume, set your clean sound up on your amp, then with the combination of full volme on the guitar and the boost pedal you could have a nice crunch sound. The OR15 isn't really designed to be a clean amp.

[misterfolkertsma]

So I presume you've already tried the OR15 at full master volume, adjusting the gain afterwards to taste? And what pickups are you playing into the amp?

[Les Paul Lover]

The limiting factor for the headroom available in the OR15 is the EL84. It's rated at 15w, and will have little headroom - no pedal is going to change that.

The cleanest loudest sound you will get will be with the volume on max, and the gain set to probably around 1 or 2 (as far as you can without getting any overdrive).

[Jondog]

A pedal I'll suggest is the Mad Professor Evolution Orange Underdrive. I have one and it cleans up an amp really well maintaining very nice tone.

[Norrin Radd]

A pedal I'll suggest is the Mad Professor Evolution Orange Underdrive. I have one and it cleans up an amp really well maintaining very nice tone.

How does that affect the overall attainable volume?

[Les Paul Lover]

A pedal I'll suggest is the Mad Professor Evolution Orange Underdrive. I have one and it cleans up an amp really well maintaining very nice tone.

How does that affect the overall attainable volume?

I suppose it opens some doors in terms of being able to set your amp dirty and clean it up when needed, but if it ever works for kosmos depends on how loud he needs his cleans.

I assume the Underdrive would still mean 15 max clean tone.

Kosmos, can you explain to us what gain and volume controls you use?

[Jondog]

It works pretty good. Not going to make high gain clean, but it cleans up a crunch and can be fine tuned with the pedals EQ. Works by filtering out the mid frequencies that cause the amp to distort. One useful way to use it is to roll your guitar volume back, dial in a nice crunch tone, engage the pedal and dial in a nice clean tone. Then with the pedal off and your guitar volume up full you'll have a nice gain tone natural to the amp. Pretty much the opposite of using an overdrive. On an EL84 amp I can dial in a nice clean tone, which I think is better than the amps clean sound before it breaks up. It's not going to be much louder, but a bit louder due to being able to dial out the frequencies causing break up.