Re: Bax Bangeetar - just love it!
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:41 pm
Cool. I will wait a while but eventually pick one up.
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Fair enough. Note that I had a fairly similar experience with the Hiwatt though, especially at first before I set things nearer flat. What exactly were you putting the BBg through?markjazzbassist wrote:got it guys.
sadly, underwhelming. but i'm a bassist so please take that into account. My clean DI tone versus through the BAX without any cut/boost yielded a severly cut low end (it's made for guitar i said, just boost some lows). I found i needed to boost all the bottom knob to get a equivalent level to my bypassed tone. The Middle and Top were decent and I was definately able to get some serious variation and tone shaping there. The Gain i had at 9'oclock and anything past that it started to breakup (with a passive bass), so i would say it isn't really meant to be very clean.
All in all, i was let down and will be selling mine, just the lack of bass frequencies really turned me off sadly. sorry to be the first bad review, but i think it's better tailored for guitar.
thanks andy i will continue to mess about with it. yes i know due to the BAX i can boost the mids by cutting bass and treble and not necessarily boosting the mids to create a "n" shaped curve.a.hun wrote:Fair enough. Note that I had a fairly similar experience with the Hiwatt though, especially at first before I set things nearer flat. What exactly were you putting the BBg through?markjazzbassist wrote:got it guys.
sadly, underwhelming. but i'm a bassist so please take that into account. My clean DI tone versus through the BAX without any cut/boost yielded a severly cut low end (it's made for guitar i said, just boost some lows). I found i needed to boost all the bottom knob to get a equivalent level to my bypassed tone. The Middle and Top were decent and I was definately able to get some serious variation and tone shaping there. The Gain i had at 9'oclock and anything past that it started to breakup (with a passive bass), so i would say it isn't really meant to be very clean.
All in all, i was let down and will be selling mine, just the lack of bass frequencies really turned me off sadly. sorry to be the first bad review, but i think it's better tailored for guitar.
Remember also that there are more ways than one to get to an EQ goal. It is really all about tonal balance. If you want more bass overall, rather than boosting the bass try cutting the treble first, playing around with possibly cutting some mids too, and then boosting the overall output to counter the losses. That should get you decent bottom end at the volume levels you want. Rather than just finding that you haven't got enough bass with the bass knob up full you may very well find that you can actually get plenty of bottom end that way - even with the bass control set much lower. The number of times I've found that sort of thing with different amps is unbelievable, part of what makes them all so interesting to me. Maybe you could also treat this as 'a different amp' and try experimenting some more before you make a final decision?
Sort of thing I was talking about HERE really. You do kind of need to treat the BBg as an amp, not just as a straightforward effects unit...
I'm not sure what your exact goals are tonally, but seem to recall you go for more 'vintage rumble' than I normally do. If you are looking for massive rumbling bottom, well either dial much of the treble and mids out (still leaving enough to play with the instrument tone knobs for whatever note definition you need), or yes, if it just isn't happening then look elsewhere. But whether for bass or guitar if you are wanting drive sounds you generally want that to happen more in the mids anyway as overdriven bottom end just tends to mush things out badly. And if you aren't after drive sounds, well this is basically a dirty Orange design, not an endless headroom clean machine. Trick I've always used though is to set the gain that bit higher than I'll actually mostly be needing and attenuate from the bass just bringing it up to the levels you want. That way you can get better fine control especially around the clean to crunch crossover zone, and get to play about with all those lovely tonal flavours there.
Hope you can manage to find some more useable sounds, but if not than maybe it just isn't for you after all. Do give it a decent chance though and try to think a bit 'out of the box' with your settings. (And don't forget the volume / tone controls on your instrument itself!)
BTW a nice simple, effective (and inexpensive) alternative solution I've found for balancing good (clean + punchy) bass with (moderate) midrange overdrive sounds is the EH Bass Soul Food. The clean / driven blend knob there is key, as it is with many other more recent bass pedals.
Good luck with it!
Andy.
Oh you'll (hopefully!) find you can do about anything with the BBg EQ. To paraphrase a certain Henry Ford, 'any colour you like as long as it is Orange'.markjazzbassist wrote:thanks andy i will continue to mess about with it. yes i know due to the BAX i can boost the mids by cutting bass and treble and not necessarily boosting the mids to create a "n" shaped curve.
Funny that I read this now should have checked the setting of my 12V adapter, it was set on 9V!a.hun wrote:Well there is plenty enough juice even with a 9V supply. What I did notice running 12V is that the distorted note decays sounded a bit less ragged, bit more like the real thing. Orange distortion is special though so not talking smooth smooth - that wouldn't be right either, would it?
Hope you find some tones that really grab you.
Andy.