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Don't do this

Post by alexauxier » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:30 pm

Listening to the sound clips on his website it sounds like the mods he does suck all of the tone out of the amp. So that isn't a good idea.

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Re: Don't do this

Post by bclaire » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:10 pm

Good lord.... talk about ruining a great amp....

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Re: Don't do this

Post by 0000 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:44 pm

I've actually had a couple of my amps repaired by this guy. He does really fantastic amp repair. I believe he used to be a builder for Mesa's high-end amps for many years. He's super skilled and knows what he's doing.

As for this mod... yeah, I'm not too sure. I honestly don't care for either of the tones, before or after the mod. The mod seems to just have more gain (which I don't think is really needed, but could be achieved with a pedal). Then again, listening on computer speakers is always bad... maybe it sounds good in person.
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Re: Don't do this

Post by Jondog » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:45 pm

Bad mod, loses all the punch.
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Re: Don't do this

Post by Randy Bass » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:11 pm

What kind of dongle-tard would modify the almighty Thunderverb?!
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Re: Don't do this

Post by indianDYsummer » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:02 am

Thunderverb? NEEDS MOAR GAINZ :evil:
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Re: Don't do this

Post by Bensnake » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:15 am

0000 wrote:I honestly don't care for either of the tones, before or after the mod.
Do you care for Orange tone at all?
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Re: Don't do this

Post by a.hun » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:33 am

Bensnake wrote:
0000 wrote:I honestly don't care for either of the tones, before or after the mod.
Do you care for Orange tone at all?
That's it really. The mod makes it sound like more a Marshall gone badly wrong through the wrong speakers. Lightweight. :?
0000 wrote:I've actually had a couple of my amps repaired by this guy. He does really fantastic amp repair. I believe he used to be a builder for Mesa's high-end amps for many years. He's super skilled and knows what he's doing.
Daresay he knows how to solder better than I can. But even the best can make mistakes it seems!

Which 'high end' Mesas though? May be wrong but I hadn't heard of any special 'Custom Shop' type special lines. (Special custom cabs yeah, but I'm talking about the amp guts.)
Whatever you think of the sounds Mesas were basically always high end amps in terms of design, components and build. All PCB builds AFAIK, but top quality PCB builds. (With the complexity of most of the circuits PCB was the only practical way to go.)

My own wee 1x10 Subway combo is just as well built as any of their bigger amps were. In fact when interviewed once by a mate of mine in Scotland Randall Smith (Mr. Mesa) said that the main reason the Subways were dropped was that they were 'too well built' for what Mesa could realistically ask for a 20W amp. They were pretty expensive amps new right enough but still not cost effective to produce. (Basically they were too good to survive!!!) ( :D)

Might just be hearing a bit of 'Mesa gone wrong' along with the 'Marshall'? On second thoughts, nah doubt it! That TV mod really sounds pretty bad. Dearie me! :lol:


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Re: Don't do this

Post by Bensnake » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:47 am

a.hun wrote:That's it really. The mod makes it sound like more a Marshall gone badly wrong through the wrong speakers. Lightweight. :?
I totally agree. But 0000 doesn't care for the tone before the mod either. That's confusing me since he's participating in an Orange forum. Maybe he just doesn't care for the TV tone, I don't know.
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Re: Don't do this

Post by Wendigo » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:06 am

Bensnake wrote:
a.hun wrote:That's it really. The mod makes it sound like more a Marshall gone badly wrong through the wrong speakers. Lightweight. :?
I totally agree. But 0000 doesn't care for the tone before the mod either. That's confusing me since he's participating in an Orange forum. Maybe he just doesn't care for the TV tone, I don't know.
Also mybe he doesn't like the recordings. A bad recording with bad mic placement can make even the best amp sound crappy.

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Re: Don't do this

Post by Bensnake » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:16 am

Wendigo wrote:
Bensnake wrote:
a.hun wrote:That's it really. The mod makes it sound like more a Marshall gone badly wrong through the wrong speakers. Lightweight. :?
I totally agree. But 0000 doesn't care for the tone before the mod either. That's confusing me since he's participating in an Orange forum. Maybe he just doesn't care for the TV tone, I don't know.
Also mybe he doesn't like the recordings. A bad recording with bad mic placement can make even the best amp sound crappy.
Could be. Only 0000 knows.
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Re: Don't do this

Post by a.hun » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:42 pm

Yeah, OOOO knows? :lol:


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Re: Don't do this

Post by 0000 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:33 pm

Bensnake wrote:
0000 wrote:I honestly don't care for either of the tones, before or after the mod.
Do you care for Orange tone at all?
Of course. Orange's tone is one that always stands out so distinctly from the rest and is so easily recognizable when heard. However, I don't find the tone of any of those recordings to be that pleasing (especially after the mod)... I just don't care for that tight, buzzy, "can of bees" super high-gain type distortion. Much prefer the more loose, warm, vintage sounding Orange tone over the modern. Just personal preference.

Surely that type of tone he desires perfectly matches his aesthetics and obvious taste in glam rock metal. Tight leather pants, Floyd Roses on every guitar, celtic tattoos, Peavey 5150's, etc...

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Re: Don't do this

Post by Bensnake » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:44 pm

0000 wrote:
Bensnake wrote:
0000 wrote:I honestly don't care for either of the tones, before or after the mod.
Do you care for Orange tone at all?
Of course.
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Re: Don't do this

Post by fiveightandten » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:12 pm

The midrange was nice and focused before the mod. With the mod engaged, the amp is too bright, and lost all the stout focused midrange. Maybe it could be a desirable mod for bedroom players, but i'd be surprised if that sounds better in a band context (which is where you use a high powered amp like this).

Granted i'm only listening on laptop speakers, but I don't hear more low end, as the website claims. It's also fizz city. The stock amp didn't have that white noise garbage going on.

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