Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
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Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
I am thinking about buying Jim Root Orange head, but from my experience I can tell that 15W will not be loud enough for me. Is there a way how to make it louder by somehow connecting to another amp in which I would just use the tone of the Orange head, but could use e.g. 50W power of the amp it is connected to? Cheers
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
Could you try to get a RV50 2nd hand from somewhere?666dodik666 wrote:I am thinking about buying Jim Root Orange head, but from my experience I can tell that 15W will not be loud enough for me. Is there a way how to make it louder by somehow connecting to another amp in which I would just use the tone of the Orange head, but could use e.g. 50W power of the amp it is connected to? Cheers
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
too much money for me. I am trying to keep the budget as low as possible as we do not play that often. I was just trying to see if that is possible to do.
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Orange TH30
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TS808 clone
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Orange TH30
Orange PPC 412 Compact (V30)
Morley Tremonti wah
TS808 clone
Marshall RG-2
Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
You could use the effects loop as a line out. Or get a Badcat Unleash.
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
I have read about the effect loop. Will it alter the tone? That badcat looks like something really good as well.
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Orange TH30
Orange PPC 412 Compact (V30)
Morley Tremonti wah
TS808 clone
Marshall RG-2
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Orange PPC 412 Compact (V30)
Morley Tremonti wah
TS808 clone
Marshall RG-2
Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
You'll just have the preamp section. If the amp you are thinking of running into has an effects loop or power amp in, thats where you'll run it into. I've heard good things about the BadCat Unleash.
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
all right, thanks, I will try to get one and try it with the loop first.
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
I believe you will still need to have a speaker load on the JR Terror even if you're using the preamp via the loop.
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
maybe consider a laney aor 100 used
or if you need more gain a peavey 5150 used
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
I am not really looking for anything different. I have modified Bugera, which is pretty close to 6505+ and I like it a lot, but when I played on the Terror, I preffered it much more.
PRS SE Tremonti Custom (Tremonti Treble + Bass)
Orange TH30
Orange PPC 412 Compact (V30)
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TS808 clone
Marshall RG-2
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Orange PPC 412 Compact (V30)
Morley Tremonti wah
TS808 clone
Marshall RG-2
Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
You can pull the power tubes to be safeThinline_slim wrote:I believe you will still need to have a speaker load on the JR Terror even if you're using the preamp via the loop.
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
power tubes from 15W or the higher watt? What could happen If I left them in?
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Marshall RG-2
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
I have a BadCat Unleash with a Tiny Terror. I use it mainly for the effects loop and volume switching.
The million dollar age old question is:
How loud is a 100 Watt solid state power amp compared to a 15 / 50 / 100 Tube power amp?
I personally do not think that the 100 Watt solid state BadCat Unleash will make a 15 Watt tube amp much if any louder than it already is by itself.
The million dollar age old question is:
How loud is a 100 Watt solid state power amp compared to a 15 / 50 / 100 Tube power amp?
I personally do not think that the 100 Watt solid state BadCat Unleash will make a 15 Watt tube amp much if any louder than it already is by itself.
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Re: Is it possible to make 15W amp louder ?
How long is a piece of string?wbm wrote:I have a BadCat Unleash with a Tiny Terror. I use it mainly for the effects loop and volume switching.
The million dollar age old question is:
How loud is a 100 Watt solid state power amp compared to a 15 / 50 / 100 Tube power amp?
I personally do not think that the 100 Watt solid state BadCat Unleash will make a 15 Watt tube amp much if any louder than it already is by itself.
Usually 100W s.s. is (roughly) sonically comparable to around 40W valve - through similar speakers. Depends on the individual amps of course, and whether you are talking clean or driven. While with some s.s. amps it is a much closer thing typically you'll need around 2 - 3 times the wattage for similar effect compared to valve output sections.
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I'd imagine that Bad Cat will have spent a bit more time on this s.s. reamp design than many. I can't see it not giving a noticeable volume boost to a TT. But personally if possible I'd always try to find an amp of the right sort of wattage for the job in the first place.
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