Considering a move to Orange
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Considering a move to Orange
Hi,
First post on here.
I am hoping that you may be able to help me. I am in the market for a new amp. I currently play a Vox AC15 but am looking for something a little darker and thicker but in the same park volume wise.
I really like the sound of the AD30 but it is a bit much in weight and volume (I play in an indie / classic rock 3 piece with a well restrained drummer).
There is currently a nice looking AD15 on ebay not too far from me that I have been considering.
My questions are how do you rate the amp? is it as nice as the reviews say and is it reliable? I know it is quite an old amp as it's been out of production for a while but will it stand up to regular gigging?
Also if you don't think it's a good choice what other oranges would you recommend? I think the Or15 may be a bit too gainy for my needs and I have to admit to being none too fond of the look of the tiny terror, I know that's very superficial but it's nice to feel proud of what you are playing through, I'm sure I could get over it but it would have to sound incredible!
Anyway thanks in advance.
First post on here.
I am hoping that you may be able to help me. I am in the market for a new amp. I currently play a Vox AC15 but am looking for something a little darker and thicker but in the same park volume wise.
I really like the sound of the AD30 but it is a bit much in weight and volume (I play in an indie / classic rock 3 piece with a well restrained drummer).
There is currently a nice looking AD15 on ebay not too far from me that I have been considering.
My questions are how do you rate the amp? is it as nice as the reviews say and is it reliable? I know it is quite an old amp as it's been out of production for a while but will it stand up to regular gigging?
Also if you don't think it's a good choice what other oranges would you recommend? I think the Or15 may be a bit too gainy for my needs and I have to admit to being none too fond of the look of the tiny terror, I know that's very superficial but it's nice to feel proud of what you are playing through, I'm sure I could get over it but it would have to sound incredible!
Anyway thanks in advance.
Re: Considering a move to Orange
I reckon the AD15 would suit you to a tee.
It is a bit of a cult following amp for those who know how nice it is.
As with all Oranges the build quality is top notch so as long as it wasn't abused it should hold up fine.
That being said, the AD30 has a great master volume so it shouldn't be an issue for your band. Also it only has a 3dB increase in peak volume from the AD15 which could be handled by using a less efficient speaker.
It is a bit of a cult following amp for those who know how nice it is.
As with all Oranges the build quality is top notch so as long as it wasn't abused it should hold up fine.
That being said, the AD30 has a great master volume so it shouldn't be an issue for your band. Also it only has a 3dB increase in peak volume from the AD15 which could be handled by using a less efficient speaker.
Orange Gear:
AD200B MkIII
OBC810
Non-Orange:
Bergantino NXT212
Bergantino Forte D
Woogie Lessie
Laney DBV-410
Basses:
Ernie Ball Stingray 4H
Rickenbacker 4003
Gibson Midtown Signature
Gibson Thunderbird
Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird
Gibson Les Paul Bass
AD200B MkIII
OBC810
Non-Orange:
Bergantino NXT212
Bergantino Forte D
Woogie Lessie
Laney DBV-410
Basses:
Ernie Ball Stingray 4H
Rickenbacker 4003
Gibson Midtown Signature
Gibson Thunderbird
Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird
Gibson Les Paul Bass
Re: Considering a move to Orange
Thanks for the quick response.
It looks like it's in good condition but I guess you can never be sure without spending a bit of time with the amp in person. Might have to try and find time to get over to try it out before bidding.
It looks like it's in good condition but I guess you can never be sure without spending a bit of time with the amp in person. Might have to try and find time to get over to try it out before bidding.
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Re: Considering a move to Orange
I really like my AD15/12. It's a brilliant amp, really really good.
It takes pedals very well,OD, fuzz, delays, tremolos.... I haven't finished my reverb pedal, so not sure yet if it will like it or not.
The only downside is the access to the speaker input, but unless you plan to use another cab with, that shouldn't be a problem.
It's brilliant at being set to the edge of Break up or just above, so you can play clean with soft strumming, dig in and have some dirt - add an OD or fuzz for leads.
And it's loud, but usable for quiet practice too. Just not super quiet.
It takes pedals very well,OD, fuzz, delays, tremolos.... I haven't finished my reverb pedal, so not sure yet if it will like it or not.
The only downside is the access to the speaker input, but unless you plan to use another cab with, that shouldn't be a problem.
It's brilliant at being set to the edge of Break up or just above, so you can play clean with soft strumming, dig in and have some dirt - add an OD or fuzz for leads.
And it's loud, but usable for quiet practice too. Just not super quiet.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Considering a move to Orange
Les Paul Lover wrote:I really like my AD15/12. It's a brilliant amp, really really good.
It takes pedals very well,OD, fuzz, delays, tremolos.... I haven't finished my reverb pedal, so not sure yet if it will like it or not.
The only downside is the access to the speaker input, but unless you plan to use another cab with, that shouldn't be a problem.
It's brilliant at being set to the edge of Break up or just above, so you can play clean with soft strumming, dig in and have some dirt - add an OD or fuzz for leads.
And it's loud, but usable for quiet practice too. Just not super quiet.
Excellent thanks for that, it all sounds pretty promising.
Really appreciate the help.
Re: Considering a move to Orange
I would suggest a Tiny Terror 12" combo if the AD15 doesn't workout.
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Re: Considering a move to Orange
The AD15 & TT/DT are quite different beast though.
The AD15 is compressed and saggy, the TT not so compressed and a lot tighter too.
If that's the AD15 the OP is looking at that's a really good deal IMO.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-AD15-1 ... 580wt_1399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's got all the great deal hallmarks - great condition & in the middle of nowhere. The location will put a lot of people off as they would have to drive perhaps 1 hour to get there, perhaps more. That auction didn't have any bid when it ended last week (that one's been relisted), so I would even consider making a cheeky but fair £250 offer for a deal outside of ebay. The only thing that anoyes me with that, is that it would make it a better deal than my own AD15.
The AD15 is compressed and saggy, the TT not so compressed and a lot tighter too.
If that's the AD15 the OP is looking at that's a really good deal IMO.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-AD15-1 ... 580wt_1399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's got all the great deal hallmarks - great condition & in the middle of nowhere. The location will put a lot of people off as they would have to drive perhaps 1 hour to get there, perhaps more. That auction didn't have any bid when it ended last week (that one's been relisted), so I would even consider making a cheeky but fair £250 offer for a deal outside of ebay. The only thing that anoyes me with that, is that it would make it a better deal than my own AD15.
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Considering a move to Orange
That is the very one I was looking at. Unfortunately I have just had a deal on a bike I was selling fall through so I'm going to have to cross my fingers that it doesn't sell until I can scrape some cash together.Les Paul Lover wrote:The AD15 & TT/DT are quite different beast though.
The AD15 is compressed and saggy, the TT not so compressed and a lot tighter too.
If that's the AD15 the OP is looking at that's a really good deal IMO.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-AD15-1 ... 580wt_1399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's got all the great deal hallmarks - great condition & in the middle of nowhere. The location will put a lot of people off as they would have to drive perhaps 1 hour to get there, perhaps more. That auction didn't have any bid when it ended last week (that one's been relisted), so I would even consider making a cheeky but fair £250 offer for a deal outside of ebay. The only thing that anoyes me with that, is that it would make it a better deal than my own AD15.
Gutted though as these don't seem to come up so frequently these days, especially in a decent condition. Shame Orange decided to discontinue them.
Never mind thanks for all the help anyway. I'm determined I'll be back brandishing a fruity little number soon.
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Re: Considering a move to Orange
bugman wrote:That is the very one I was looking at. Unfortunately I have just had a deal on a bike I was selling fall through so I'm going to have to cross my fingers that it doesn't sell until I can scrape some cash together.Les Paul Lover wrote:The AD15 & TT/DT are quite different beast though.
The AD15 is compressed and saggy, the TT not so compressed and a lot tighter too.
If that's the AD15 the OP is looking at that's a really good deal IMO.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-AD15-1 ... 580wt_1399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's got all the great deal hallmarks - great condition & in the middle of nowhere. The location will put a lot of people off as they would have to drive perhaps 1 hour to get there, perhaps more. That auction didn't have any bid when it ended last week (that one's been relisted), so I would even consider making a cheeky but fair £250 offer for a deal outside of ebay. The only thing that anoyes me with that, is that it would make it a better deal than my own AD15.
Gutted though as these don't seem to come up so frequently these days, especially in a decent condition. Shame Orange decided to discontinue them.
Never mind thanks for all the help anyway. I'm determined I'll be back brandishing a fruity little number soon.
Hopefully you can shift that bike soon. I reckon that's a great deal, but they don't Always go very fast, though I would expect it to get picked up because the pricing is quite keen.
Good luck!!!
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: Considering a move to Orange
if all else fails, the AD30TC is a bloody awesome amp. My favourite from Orange for sure. Being a long time AC30 owner, the AD30 is just what your looking for, a darker grittier thicker sound. It can still do clean, its just got more mid/bottom to it.
My AD30TC was quieter than my AC30 by quite a bit, so maybe more in line with AC15 volumes. The Master Volume also gives you a lot of control over your tone. I fought with mine a bit when I first got it because I was hoping for more Vox likes tones for some reason...but once I accepted thats not what it does, I was much happier and it was perfect for me for years. Since I changed playing styles and now play in a progressive hard rock band which is very effects heavy the AD30TC turned into a Rockerverb50.
My AD30TC was quieter than my AC30 by quite a bit, so maybe more in line with AC15 volumes. The Master Volume also gives you a lot of control over your tone. I fought with mine a bit when I first got it because I was hoping for more Vox likes tones for some reason...but once I accepted thats not what it does, I was much happier and it was perfect for me for years. Since I changed playing styles and now play in a progressive hard rock band which is very effects heavy the AD30TC turned into a Rockerverb50.
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RV50, Vox AC30, Gibson LP Trad '14, Gibson ES-335 '04, PRS Cu24 '10, Fender Tele Pro, Gretsch Powerjet
RV50, Vox AC30, Gibson LP Trad '14, Gibson ES-335 '04, PRS Cu24 '10, Fender Tele Pro, Gretsch Powerjet
Re: Considering a move to Orange
sold my bike and got me an orange too.....no regrets whatsoever!!!bugman wrote:That is the very one I was looking at. Unfortunately I have just had a deal on a bike I was selling fall through so I'm going to have to cross my fingers that it doesn't sell until I can scrape some cash together.Les Paul Lover wrote:The AD15 & TT/DT are quite different beast though.
The AD15 is compressed and saggy, the TT not so compressed and a lot tighter too.
If that's the AD15 the OP is looking at that's a really good deal IMO.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-AD15-1 ... 580wt_1399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's got all the great deal hallmarks - great condition & in the middle of nowhere. The location will put a lot of people off as they would have to drive perhaps 1 hour to get there, perhaps more. That auction didn't have any bid when it ended last week (that one's been relisted), so I would even consider making a cheeky but fair £250 offer for a deal outside of ebay. The only thing that anoyes me with that, is that it would make it a better deal than my own AD15.
Gutted though as these don't seem to come up so frequently these days, especially in a decent condition. Shame Orange decided to discontinue them.
Never mind thanks for all the help anyway. I'm determined I'll be back brandishing a fruity little number soon.
...could be cause they were the same colour though?!
Gibson: Angus Young SG 03 / LP Standard 05 / Firebird V 01
Orange: RV50 mkII & ppc212-c / Micro Dark & ppc112 / TH30 Combo
Orange: RV50 mkII & ppc212-c / Micro Dark & ppc112 / TH30 Combo
Re: Considering a move to Orange
What? My AD30 had two separate channel with each their own volume. Was is the older version?OU818 wrote: That being said, the AD30 has a great master volume so it shouldn't be an issue for your band. Also it only has a 3dB increase in peak volume from the AD15 which could be handled by using a less efficient speaker.
Gear: Orange Rocker 30 head, Orange TH100 head, Orange PPC212OB cab, pedals galore, Fender MIJ 52 RI Tele w. BKP Blackguard Flat '52s, Fender MIA Standard Strat w. Fender CS Fat '50s, ESP LTD MH-1000 w. BKP (AlNiCo) Nailbomb/VHII.
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Re: Considering a move to Orange
Each channel has a "Master Volume" in that there are separate Gain and Volume controls. I don't think he was suggesting that it had a "Global" MV like some amps do. Orange seems to think that "Attenuator" is a better word for a Global MV and they use the term "Master Volume" to apply to a separate Volume control on any channel that also has a Gain control. Amp manufacturers need to stop making things so complicated.jesperbc wrote:What? My AD30 had two separate channel with each their own volume. Was is the older version?OU818 wrote: That being said, the AD30 has a great master volume so it shouldn't be an issue for your band. Also it only has a 3dB increase in peak volume from the AD15 which could be handled by using a less efficient speaker.
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Re: Considering a move to Orange
Check out the Dark Terror. I want one myself.
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