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Speaker examples

Post by bates » Tue May 06, 2014 1:53 pm

Hello everyone :) i just done this video showing the difference in tone between the Eminence Governor, Celestion Vintage 30, WGS Veteran 30 and the Tayden Brit 60.

I know high gain is not to everyones taste on here but its quite interesting hearing the difference :)

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by Boy_Narf » Tue May 06, 2014 3:06 pm

Typically I prefer the WGS tone to the V30, but I think the V30 takes first prize in this shootout. Are all the speakers broken in?
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Re: Speaker examples

Post by bates » Tue May 06, 2014 4:47 pm

Sort of. I isolate the cab and blast it for about 30min at full blast.

Its hard to break them in because i have a deal with the speaker supplier where he lets me take any speakers i want to try as long as i put his website on my videos.

So yeah cool that i get to play tons of speakers but a shame that they never really get broke in very well.

And yes..........the WGS did sound best in the room :wink:

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by jasondunringill » Tue May 06, 2014 6:59 pm

Quite a dramatic difference there! I'm sure for the right amp the tayden is a fine speaker but to my ears sounded pretty poor compared to the celestion and the wgs. I'm very happy with the V30's in my cabs and nothing I heard would make me want to change them. Interesting comparison.
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Re: Speaker examples

Post by bates » Tue May 06, 2014 7:09 pm

Yeah the Tayden done really bad. I did a video about two weeks ago of the Alnico Tayden ace 50 which sounded great but this video was my first experience with their ceramic speakers. Not impressed so far but i'm gonna try some of their other models

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by Boy_Narf » Tue May 06, 2014 9:29 pm

In person.

I much prefer the WGS to V30 with my TT. The WGS seems more "flat". You don't get the ice pick. At higher volumes I'm not really sure though. The WGS sounded sick. Perhaps the shady cabinet I built can't support the speaker at higher volumes. The next one will be an open back, so it should rely less on the cab.
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Re: Speaker examples

Post by Invin » Tue May 06, 2014 10:27 pm

Nice! I preferred the Governor in all but the last riff, but maybe that's just because it's what I'm used to hearing since I have one in my cab :lol: Either way I'm happy haha.
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Re: Speaker examples

Post by bates » Wed May 07, 2014 6:47 am

The governor is still in the cab so i'm gonna play with it a bit more today.

It defo makes a difference what cab is being used though. Especially with the high gain stuff. Cheap cabs vibrate too much because of the light wood and the distortion can't keep itself together.

I am using the Montage cabs which are pretty good but a Mesa or Orange cab would have altered the sound and possibly given different results

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by msmith4432 » Wed May 07, 2014 10:00 am

jasondunringill wrote:Quite a dramatic difference there! I'm sure for the right amp the tayden is a fine speaker but to my ears sounded pretty poor compared to the celestion and the wgs. I'm very happy with the V30's in my cabs and nothing I heard would make me want to change them. Interesting comparison.

I thought the tayden and the eminence sounded like crap.
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Re: Speaker examples

Post by bates » Wed May 07, 2014 11:35 am

I feel bad for the Tayden lol. I'm gonna put it back in the cab tomorrow and try to find some things that it can do well

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by Les Paul Lover » Wed May 07, 2014 11:38 am

msmith4432 wrote:
jasondunringill wrote:Quite a dramatic difference there! I'm sure for the right amp the tayden is a fine speaker but to my ears sounded pretty poor compared to the celestion and the wgs. I'm very happy with the V30's in my cabs and nothing I heard would make me want to change them. Interesting comparison.

I thought the tayden and the eminence sounded like crap.

Me too - they really didn't record well.

I thought the V30 was the clear winner here - in this recording, it sounds that fatest, fullest, most articulate of them all. Thank you very much for this comparison, very intersting Bates! :D
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Re: Speaker examples

Post by bates » Wed May 07, 2014 12:20 pm

No probs mate.

As long as the speaker supplier keeps letting me test the speakers i will keep making the videos :)

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by hitgar » Wed May 07, 2014 5:03 pm

I usually do not like the sound of a V30 but in this demo its a clear winner. I would normally prefer the Eminince but here it sounded a little strange. Thanks for the demo.

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by bates » Wed May 07, 2014 6:35 pm

Thanks for watching.

I would like to do the test again with my 1x12 Orange cab but i need that cab to gig and i don't want it getting the wear and tear thats involved with all these speaker changes.

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Re: Speaker examples

Post by a.hun » Thu May 08, 2014 7:47 am

bates wrote:Thanks for watching.

I would like to do the test again with my 1x12 Orange cab but i need that cab to gig and i don't want it getting the wear and tear thats involved with all these speaker changes.
Wouldn't bother anyway. I don't think the differences between mic'ing up the different cabs would be that obvious. Unlike bass cabs as long as a guitar cab is well enough put together the exact dimensions aren't that critical. Most of the differences (probably 95%) would be still between the speakers and I'm sure I'd still find the V.30 standing out as the best of the bunch with the Emi and Tayden trailing badly.

Of course with a different guitar and amp setup / settings that could all change. But for those sounds it was the Celestion all the way for me. The WGS wasn't at all bad. The other two actually were.


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