AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

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AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by steamboat » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:01 am

Hey guys I'm a huge fan of the AD15 amp and I own 4 of them all being AD15/12's. 3 pre productions #005 #021 & #023 and production #446. My #021 is a head and I LOVE being able to hook it up to different cabs.

First question: Do the AD15/12 and AD15/10 share serial numbers or does each version have there own number set?

Second: How many AD15's were made?

My pre productions are from december 1998. My production #446 is from 2001. I believe the ad15 was made until 2004.

If you have an ad15 please list its version(10 or 12) and Serial number. maybe we can find someone with one of the last ad15's made and find out how many of each are out there!

Any info would be great! Also if anyone has pre productions please share it's story...build dates & numbering...pics if available its cool to see the slight differences in them during pre production! :D
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Les Paul Lover » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:28 am

steamboat wrote:Hey guys I'm a huge fan of the AD15 amp and I own 3 of them all being AD15/12's. 2 pre productions #021 & #023 and production #446. My #021 is a head and I LOVE being able to hook it up to different cabs.

Kind of goofy but my #021 has a build date of December 10th 1998 and my #023 has a build date of December 9th 1998...you would think it would have been the other way around. It's neat to see differences in pre production stuff. The differences I found in my two so far are #023 came with skids/feet my #021 did not and my #021 is wired for u.k. outlet and my #023 is wired for u.s. outlet.

First question: Do the AD15/12 and AD15/10 share serial numbers or does each version have there own number set?

Second: How many AD15's were made?

My pre productions are from december 1998. My production #446 is from 2001. I believe the ad15 was made until 2003 so based off of my amp numbers, my best guess is maybe around 750 total amps? Now I would like to know if that approx figure would be TOTAL AD15's (10 & 12 inch versions) or just AD15/12's.

If you have an ad15 please list its version(10 or 12) and Serial number. maybe we can find someone with one of the last ad15's made and find out how many of each are out there!

Any info would be great! Also if anyone has pre productions please share it's story...build dates & numbering...pics if available its cool to see the slight differences in them during pre production! If anyone else is obsessed with these amps please let me know so that i don't feel alone! :D

I don't know how many were made or for exactly how long. However, you still have a few left to acquire before you can claim total AD15 world domination. I intend to keep mine until you have made the AD15 prices go higher than the dumbles thanks to your stockpiling them. :lol:
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by a.hun » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:13 pm

See my reply on the ser. nos. thread...
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Don't think that anybody really knows about production totals. Well Orange might, but they've never told us AFAIK!

Must grab the Orange Book just in case they did tell there and I'm talking even more Bx than usual. :wink:


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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Sooner » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:41 pm

steamboat wrote:Hey guys I'm a huge fan of the AD15 amp and I own 3 of them all being AD15/12's. 2 pre productions #021 & #023 and production #446.
Would be interesting to see a pic of the back panel on #446. That's an interesting serial number format that I've not heard of before.
steamboat wrote: It's neat to see differences in pre production stuff. The differences I found in my two so far are #023 came with skids/feet my #021 did not and my #021 is wired for u.k. outlet and my #023 is wired for u.s. outlet.
Did you buy either of them new? My guess is they both originally had skids and were wired for the U.K . When I moved back to the US in late '99 they didn't have any dealers in the US yet so it seems odd that an early one would be wired originally for the US.
steamboat wrote: First question: Do the AD15/12 and AD15/10 share serial numbers or does each version have there own number set?
My guess is that they share serial numbers. I asked a similar question to Jason Green (former president of Orange USA) and he indicated AD15s and AD30s had seperate numbering but didn't mention the AD15s being seperate.
steamboat wrote: Second: How many AD15's were made?

My pre productions are from december 1998. My production #446 is from 2001. I believe the ad15 was made until 2003 so based off of my amp numbers, my best guess is maybe around 750 total amps? Now I would like to know if that approx figure would be TOTAL AD15's (10 & 12 inch versions) or just AD15/12's.
Beats me. In addition to the simple 3 digit pre-production serial numbers there are at least two other formats that I've seen. The formats apparently changed when production moved from the Trace Elliot factory to some other facility sometime during 2002. Not sure that the number of units made can be determined from either format.

On another note, the Orange Heritage section on the website has a few inaccuracies about the AD15s. They say they came out in 99 after the AD30s but they actually came out in 98 along with the AD30 Heads. It was the AD30 combos that came out later in 99. I read an interview with Adrian Emsley wher he said the AD15 was actually the first AD series amp that he designed. They also claim the AD15s came in both combo and head versions but I've never seen or heard of an AD15 head from the factory.
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Ade » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:36 am

Here's mine from the registration page:
Ade wrote:Name: Ade
Location: FNQ, Australia
Amp Model: AD15/12
Serial Number: OR-12/204/100
Date finished: 24/02/2000

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Sorry I can't help with any of your other questions other than to reiterate how good these things sound.

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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by burnscs » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:17 pm

Must have been on the board too much last night, I had a dream that I went to go look at an or120 and when I showed up it was an ad15 pre-production like steamboat's, but it was a black vertical styled combo. Was going to buy it until I figured out it was solid state.
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Les Paul Lover » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:29 pm

burnscs wrote:Must have been on the board too much last night, I had a dream that I went to go look at an or120 and when I showed up it was an ad15 pre-production like steamboat's, but it was a black vertical styled combo. Was going to buy it until I figured out it was solid state.

So in the end it was a nightmare really???

Either way, you made me laugh!!!!!
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Randy Bass » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:11 pm

burnscs wrote:Must have been on the board too much last night, I had a dream that I went to go look at an or120 and when I showed up it was an ad15 pre-production like steamboat's, but it was a black vertical styled combo. Was going to buy it until I figured out it was solid state.
Good thing you didn't take it home. It would have turned into an OPC by then. :D
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Les Paul Lover » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:16 pm

In any case, mine is AD1512 1053-9-02. So I assume September 2002.
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by steamboat » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:20 pm

Thanks for the responses!

Sooner - thanks for all the info! I too thought the ad15 was the first Ad series, but have never heard of or seen a head version. I wish they would have made heads....so badly that I had to make one! :D

So my #021 never had skids, There were no holes in the bottom from screws or anything.

My #023...I bought this from The guy who originally bought it from orange. He bought it in 1999 in New york city at a guitar show that orange was at. He said it was a u.s. plug when he bought it.

I can't even express how awesome it is that you own #001...If you ever part with it you know who to contact! :lol:
Would love to see a picture!


Ade - Very nice ad15! looks like its in minty shape! Would you think yours is #204 with a january 2000 date? it would make sense I believe my production ad15 is #446 with a march of 2001 date. The AD15 Sound is just tops! You ever plug yours into your 1975 4x12? i bet it sounds so good! I have all three of mine set up different to cater to different stuff but every combination just has such great rock n roll mojo sometimes I swear it's like playing a vintage amp. I love how responsive the gain is with the guitar volume, cleans up nice.
It's too bad they didn't make more of these so many people will never experience these or even realize they exist.


Les paul lover- thanks for your info. can you post a picture of serial tag?

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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Sooner » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:24 pm

steamboat wrote: My #023...I bought this from The guy who originally bought it from orange. He bought it in 1999 in New york city at a guitar show that orange was at. He said it was a u.s. plug when he bought it.
Very cool. Yours may have been the first one sold in the US then!

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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by steamboat » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:06 am

Sooner-Very nice! In great shape too! You are very lucky to have such a great piece of orange history.

Since you bought yours new maybe you can help me figure something out. The #023 I bought is in pretty mint condition and looked hardly used, when I went to change the tubes I noticed they said trace elliot on the tubes. I'm wondering if these are possibly originals from the factory? Did your factory tubes say trace elliot?
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Ade » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:04 am

steamboat wrote:Ade - Very nice ad15! looks like its in minty shape!
Thanks. It's okay, I think the pic probably makes it look better than it is.
steamboat wrote:Would you think yours is #204 with a january 2000 date? it would make sense I believe my production ad15 is #446 with a march of 2001 date.
Yeah, not sure. To be honest I hadn't thought too much about it. But if that's the conventional wisdom on the serial number system then you're probably right. I'd be curious to know how many of these made it too and were sold in Australia. I do think the AD30 single channel heads and combos, and then particularly the twin channel versions, were pretty popular here. I know my AD15 sat in the store it was originally purchased from for at least another six months after it was traded back in by the original owner before I claimed it. Apparently it was an impulse purchase by the original owner and he traded it back in on an amp with more bells and whistles (and there in a nutshell I believe is why we like them and not enough others did for them to still be in production :D ).
steamboat wrote:You ever plug yours into your 1975 4x12?
Haven't yet to be honest. The AD50s been hogging it. I should try it through the 4x12 and also my Hiwatt greenback loaded 2x12.

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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by Sooner » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:19 am

steamboat wrote:Sooner-Very nice! In great shape too! You are very lucky to have such a great piece of orange history.

Since you bought yours new maybe you can help me figure something out. The #023 I bought is in pretty mint condition and looked hardly used, when I went to change the tubes I noticed they said trace elliot on the tubes. I'm wondering if these are possibly originals from the factory? Did your factory tubes say trace elliot?
Mine had Sovtek preamp and unbranded power amp (probably Sovtek too?) and a Chelmer rectifier. There were a lot of changes in the pre production models though so your TEs could be original. Maybe you should ask the guy on eBay that you got it from?
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Re: AD15/12 & AD15/10 users...Any info?

Post by bclaire » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:52 am

Sooner- what are you using for a stand? I laughed for a second thinking it could be a re-purposed walker like my friend Frank uses for his Marshall! ha ha ha!

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