We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
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We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
I'm in a new band, basically similar to my old band FIRES (new drummer, slightly faster and more aggressive sound), we call ourselves Night Moves.
We just got a Facebook message from the mananger of "Domino Records Artist, NIGHT MOVES" that they have trademarked that name etc etc and that we have to change our name. We "may use the name for our upcoming gig, but must change if after that". Oh, well thank you sir!
So I find this amusing for a couple reasons:
1) our band has a facebook page, it's a new band, only one show so far, and maybe 4 "likes" on our page. That is the whole of our Internet Presence, oh and a couple Youtube videos (viewed maybe 20 times, mostly by us and a couple friends), poorly recorded, of the one show.
2) the facts of number 1 lead me to believe that this band, management, or possibly someone associated with them scours the internet for other bands using the name "Night Moves". Which is a silly waste of time if you ask me.
3) it's a silly band name, and they trademarked it. They trademarked....a....Bob....Seger.....song title.
I get it, you don't want another band using your name, no big whoop. I just find it amusing!!
We just got a Facebook message from the mananger of "Domino Records Artist, NIGHT MOVES" that they have trademarked that name etc etc and that we have to change our name. We "may use the name for our upcoming gig, but must change if after that". Oh, well thank you sir!
So I find this amusing for a couple reasons:
1) our band has a facebook page, it's a new band, only one show so far, and maybe 4 "likes" on our page. That is the whole of our Internet Presence, oh and a couple Youtube videos (viewed maybe 20 times, mostly by us and a couple friends), poorly recorded, of the one show.
2) the facts of number 1 lead me to believe that this band, management, or possibly someone associated with them scours the internet for other bands using the name "Night Moves". Which is a silly waste of time if you ask me.
3) it's a silly band name, and they trademarked it. They trademarked....a....Bob....Seger.....song title.
I get it, you don't want another band using your name, no big whoop. I just find it amusing!!
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Re: We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
Change it to Domino Night Moves
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- Orange Master
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okay. change your name to "F$#@ Domino Records". that one seems pretty easy.
seems sketchy to me. if you're not profiting from their name (hell, i doubt they're even profiting from their name) you're in no way breaking Copyright/TM laws. i can make a batch of Tortilla chips and call them Tostitos so long as i don't sell them on the public market. it's probably one of these little britches record companies who have no clue what the hell they're doing, hiring artists that have no draw, no talent, and no future.
i'd ask them to see the paperwork. they could be calling your bluff.
seems sketchy to me. if you're not profiting from their name (hell, i doubt they're even profiting from their name) you're in no way breaking Copyright/TM laws. i can make a batch of Tortilla chips and call them Tostitos so long as i don't sell them on the public market. it's probably one of these little britches record companies who have no clue what the hell they're doing, hiring artists that have no draw, no talent, and no future.
i'd ask them to see the paperwork. they could be calling your bluff.
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We've definitely been talking about fun variations on NIGHT MOVES and all that!
And the response my bassist sent them was "Thank you for your interest in Night Moves!" Which I think is perfect. We thought about using the name NLGHT MOVES, so when it's written in lowercase, the "L" becomse what looks like an "i".
And really, yes, so long as we are not profiting off the band and whatnot, really not much they can do I don't think. That's a good idea to ask to see documentation behind it, if anything just to give them more work on their end!
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Re: We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
What about suggesting you change to Knight Moves, tell them you are reforming in a Man o war style
Should wind them up a bit
Should wind them up a bit
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It's happened to some friends of mine. Their band has been established for longer than the UK band that contacted them. Some kind of agreement was met where if either band tours either other continent they have to use "USA" or "UK" at the end.
Change it to Knight Moves. Cooler anyways.
Change it to Knight Moves. Cooler anyways.
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baytamusic wrote:It's happened to some friends of mine. Their band has been established for longer than the UK band that contacted them. Some kind of agreement was met where if either band tours either other continent they have to use "USA" or "UK" at the end.
Change it to Knight Moves. Cooler anyways.
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I'd change it to "Night Rider" personally. Otherwise, ditch the name altogether and go with something classy like "Donkey Show".
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Re: We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
Suede had the same problem whenever they were in the USA... they had to use "the London Suede".
Sounds like a pile of arse to me... much of the sensible advice above seems about right.
Check their documentation and if it's kosher perhaps have a bit of a dialogue about keeping the name if you want to, but adding (Baltimore) after it if you play live etc. At the moment, it sounds like your 4 facebook likes are unlikely to get you mixed up.
Sounds like a pile of arse to me... much of the sensible advice above seems about right.
Check their documentation and if it's kosher perhaps have a bit of a dialogue about keeping the name if you want to, but adding (Baltimore) after it if you play live etc. At the moment, it sounds like your 4 facebook likes are unlikely to get you mixed up.
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Re: We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
You could say you're changing the i in night to a 1
That might wind them up
Or better still the o to a zero in moves
That might wind them up
Or better still the o to a zero in moves
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Dunky wrote:What about suggesting you change to Knight Moves, tell them you are reforming in a Man o war style
Should wind them up a bit
Sorry! I started a band called Knight Moves about 2 minutes ago. It's a solo project, and I play with myself.
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My two cents: find a better name.
Band naming is a big issue especially if someone has product out and can prove that they have prior legit use. It gets very tricky...
There was a Boston band called The Dream - they had had some minimal success with a decent fanbase, but one of the major network soap operas wanted to have a recurring band in a dream sequence called The Dream but couldn't because of the Boston band. So they contacted them and sold them their name for like $30,000. The band then called themselves X-Dream which became Extreme, and that $30K paid for some good studio demo time...
There are other examples of the UK vs USA name issue besides London Suede - several bands have had to put UK at the end of their name to be able to sell or play in the USA. Charlatans UK leaps to mind...
Band naming is a big issue especially if someone has product out and can prove that they have prior legit use. It gets very tricky...
There was a Boston band called The Dream - they had had some minimal success with a decent fanbase, but one of the major network soap operas wanted to have a recurring band in a dream sequence called The Dream but couldn't because of the Boston band. So they contacted them and sold them their name for like $30,000. The band then called themselves X-Dream which became Extreme, and that $30K paid for some good studio demo time...
There are other examples of the UK vs USA name issue besides London Suede - several bands have had to put UK at the end of their name to be able to sell or play in the USA. Charlatans UK leaps to mind...
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Comsat Angels, a band from my neck of the woods had to change their name in the States.
They were threatend by the Communications Satellite Corporation of all people in the US so went by the name of C.S. Angels over there.
They were threatend by the Communications Satellite Corporation of all people in the US so went by the name of C.S. Angels over there.
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Re: We Just Got Told to Change Our Band Name!
Ask them if your singer / guitarist can get in touch with them to chat politely about the matter, and that his name is Bob Seger.
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Powerslave wrote:Ask them if your singer / guitarist can get in touch with them to chat politely about the matter, and that his name is Bob Seger.
Better yet, change your name to "Pete Seeger and the Sliver Bullet Band".
Seriously though, "Sliver Bullet" would be an awesome band name and I will gladly donate it to you .
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