Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

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Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by hitgar » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:07 am

I have recently been loving the way I use my Tech 21 Blonde pedal with my OR15.
Since the OR15 is a single channel amp I was always trying to boost the amp into distortion with my other pedals. But what I really wanted was the pure tone from the amp without much coloration. I was able to do that by going from clean to mild crunch and from light overdrive to distortion by using conservative settings on my pedals, but I really wanted to go from clean to all out distortion. So I had a brain storm. I set my amp to the distortion level that I wanted and set the Tech 21 Blonde clean with the volume low (but close to unity), gain around 9 o'clock and the character just before noon. It is a fender simulator so it does cut some of the mid range (which can be compensated a little with its mid control) and makes it sparkle a little more than the normal amp clean. But then when I kick it off I get the screaming distortion I wanted. I really like the clean sound of the amp by it self but this is a compromise for now. Its using the pedal the reverse of how most people use them but it seems to work just as well.

I was just curious as to how many other people have used their preamp pedals in this way for a single channel amp and if you liked it? (sometimes mid strum I'm looking to kick it over so using the volume knob is very hard to do)?

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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by jason41224 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:57 am

not QUITE the same, but i use my JHS Morning Glory in sort of the same fashion. the MG cuts lower mids, adds higher mids and gives an overall more chimey tone. it also adds a slight amount of grit that is extremely touch sensitive. makes my Rocker 30's natural channel (which i've always felt was 95% there, but not quite) sound sorta like an AC30 on the edge of breakup. sounds lovely.

also, Paul Gilbert's pretty famous for using his HBE Detox EQ to turn a dirty amp into a clean amp by reducing volume and cutting some mids.
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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by Jondog » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:36 am

You could try a EH Signal Pad
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC3twvskKEw&feature=related][/url]
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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by a.hun » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:35 pm

Yep, I've used my Award Session JD10 preamp like that. Works great that way.
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Must try it with my Sansamp VT Bass too.


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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by a.hun » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:40 pm

Jondog wrote:You could try a EH Signal Pad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC3twvsk ... re=related
(Link fixed.)

Yeah, that'd do the job perfectly. Or a good volume pedal would give you instant control on your gain while playing.


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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by hitgar » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:54 pm

Thanks everyone. :D
I will try the EH when I get a chance. They always come out with some cool gear.

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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by David Verb » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:23 am

Jondog wrote:You could try a EH Signal Pad
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC3twvskKEw&feature=related][/url]
Why would you pay money for this? :roll:
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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by a.hun » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:11 am

David Verb wrote:
Jondog wrote:You could try a EH Signal Pad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC3twvsk ... re=related
Why would you pay money for this? :roll:
(link fixed again! :wink:)

Because not everyone can build their own? :o

Or are you doubting the concept? Big advantages of going this route are
1. what you get is 100% your amps natural overdrive and tone, and
2. since you are cutting for cleaner sounds rather than boosting for dirtier ones you'll not introduce any extra noise.

Works well!


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Re: Have you ever used a preamp pedal this way?

Post by Jondog » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:15 pm

David Verb wrote:
Jondog wrote:You could try a EH Signal Pad
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC3twvskKEw&feature=related][/url]
Why would you pay money for this? :roll:
Because even if you did build your own, you still have to pay for parts. Approx. $30. Ehx Signal pad, approx $45.
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