Standing cabinet on its side???

[SkullCrusher]

hello all

I recently got a ppc212ob in black but im a bit stuck for space, (i originally plumped for a 112 but they didnt have one. and im impatient.

hehe

so is it ok to stand the amp on its side for storage and use?

thanks dom

[nlimbaugh]

Works for me.

[SkullCrusher]

Works for me.

Sexcellent.

[Jondog]

Works for me.

Sexcellent.

[WAWBanks]

You get a speaker closer to your ear that way. Sounds better.

[irish_admiral]

It's not really that much closer (pointing at your knees instead of your ankles), but it should be alright.

Bear in mind the side doesn't have the wooden runners on, so you may scuff or tear the tolex eventually unless you put it on something protective.

[SkullCrusher]

what ever it does it sounds less bassy.

[hellagnar Brosevelt]

Less amp / floor contact will = less bass.

[Borderline Productions]

As long as there is contact with floor, you should get some resonance from the floor.

[a.hun]

Okay, less noticable with the OB cab because it is less directional than a closed back 2x12, but anyway here is something to chew on...

Having vertically mounted speaker drivers (like a standard 2x12 on its side) will hugely increase the horizontal sound spread (left to right) compared to horizontally mounted ones. This is because of the way which fairly closely mounted loudspeakers interact with each other. I have a vertical 2x12 bass cab and the sound spread across an audience is great.

In the real world this is much better than having a large vertical (floor to ceiling) sound spread but only beaming your sound to the people nearly directly in front of your cab. So yes stick your cab on its side. You might lose a little bass but more people out there will hear you a lot better. Good horizontal sound dispersion is much better than good vertical sound spread. Your audience will hear you better and you'll get less floor / ceiling reflections muddying up your sound.

If you have a 4x12 (4x10, whatever) you are stuffed. These are always much more directional!

There you go. Night all!


Andy.

[ironlung40]

I've seen similar questions about storing amps on their side or playing them on their side. I can't see any harm in any of it. I own about 10 amps, and everyone of them are stored on their side when not in use. I rent a gear locker at a studio, and this is the only way they'll all fit in there.

I tried putting my 4x12 on it's side, but it still seemed to occupy the same amount of space.

[ESBlonde]

Andy has already stated the directional properties of vertically mounted loudspeakers (the line array effect). Have you noticed how these days big PAs have columns hung in long arrays as opposed to massive stacks (known as point source).

Also the low frequencies will couple with any local hard surface (floor, wall, another cone, another large cab). The lower the frequency the larger the gap it can couple accross, this leads to a 3db volume increase at those frequencies although most are below what is usable in a guitars frequency range. Again you will notice the sub bass cabinets for PA systems are usually floor mounted and grouped together to benefit from this physical effect.

Placing the cabinet on a chair so that it points to your ears will ensure you hear what you really sound like and not some perception based on your and the cabinets location within a set enviroment.

[londonFox]

should be fine bro

[hellagnar Brosevelt]

If you have a 4x12 (4x10, whatever) you are stuffed. These are always much more directional!

There you go. Night all!


Andy.

Unless you are running a slant cab. I use to always run my marshall slant on its side with center point aiming straight forward and the cab up on a milk crate. I could hear it great and everyone in the room could as well. Now that I think about it I kind of want a 4x12 again.

[ironlung40]

If you have a 4x12 (4x10, whatever) you are stuffed. These are always much more directional!

There you go. Night all!


Andy.

Unless you are running a slant cab. I use to always run my marshall slant on its side with center point aiming straight forward and the cab up on a milk crate. I could hear it great and everyone in the room could as well. Now that I think about it I kind of want a 4x12 again.

I've seen many a marshall slant ran that way. I've never owned one, though.