2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

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2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by misterMagoo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:14 pm

I live in NE Pennsylvania and the past 2 weeks have taken us through some strange occurrances. First we had an earthquake. This in an area where most of the living population has never experienced that before (and we've got a lot of elderly!) Many of you may have heard about the earthquake that rocked the whitehouse. This is an EXTREMELY rare thing to happen on the east coast!

Then we had a hurricane. Yeah I understand that most people who were warned about hurrican Irene had wrote it off as a jooke after the fact but up here we had a lot of damage. Trees down, power lines damaged, houses damaged, very high winds, I found it hard to believe that more outlying areas weren't more affected.

And then last week, it rained for about a week straight, and this resulted in severe flooding all over the local region. Luckily I live in an area with very well designed levy system, but not all the outlying towns were as lucky. We had a crest of 42' and some inches, while our levy system was only designed to hold 41 feet. Fortunately, it still held and damage was mitigated in my city.

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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by Bandeapart » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:32 pm

Short answer: No.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by Wired » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:47 pm

From what I understand...and I haven't done an ounce of research, just what I over hear... the 2012 prophecy is that the world will change. Not end, but change as we know it.

I think with all the turmoil we have been seeing around the world as of late (not just in North America) that this could be very possible. We are seeing USA and UK with the looming threat of another recession, and possibly a depression. We see the increased environmental activity in areas that usually don't get the kind of activity we are seeing.

So yes, I think the world is changing, and we might see big changes in world powers though either environmental or financial events.

But remember, my theory in this matter is 99.9% uneducated and me just talking out of my bum.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by MaxProphet » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:04 pm

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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by nguideau » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:14 pm

"Prophecies" like this are intentionally generic. It's the same thing as psychics and astrology readings. They have boilerplate fortunes they tell people and adjust certain blanks in the template based on the information you tell them or information they can figure out by looking at you.

Of course the world will change in 2012. It changed a lot in 2011. And a lot in 2010. And in 2001... etc. And with the advent of computer engineering, major world change will continue to happen at an exponential rate year over year.

I'm not saying the earthquake wasn't serious, or the hurricane wasn't, or the tornadoes earlier in the season weren't. They are serious disasters that impacted a lot people, and I cross my fingers for those people. But the thing is, these things happen. Hurricane Bob happened to the northeast just like Irene. These things happen. Remember that the geological time scale is massive, so while it seems like the end of the world to us because a once-in-a-lifetime event occurred, that's still pretty damn frequent on the scale of Earth's timeline.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by yossarian83 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:23 pm

It's a whole lot more fun (and profitable) to blame it on the Mayans and fate rather than something scientifically valid such as climate change... :roll:

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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by myboss57 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:33 pm

Yup, NOT the end of the world, NOT any 2012 prophecy. This is such generic stuff (as already stated above) and this sort of thing has been happening since the world began. Climate patterns can change and every now and then we'll get a hurricane up the East Coast (since most of these storms start in the Atlantic, off the coast of Africa) because the overall basic pattern of these storms is to come at an angle towards Fla and the Caribbean - every now and then one will shoot a little further North.

Rain has always happened, nothing new there. Rick Perry in Texas has been doing a "rain dance" because of the droughts in Texas (they had a huge prayer rally at a stadium in Texas for it), but no rains have come yet.
yossarian83 wrote:It's a whole lot more fun (and profitable) to blame it on the Mayans and fate rather than something scientifically valid such as climate change... :roll:
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nguideau wrote:"Prophecies" like this are intentionally generic. It's the same thing as psychics and astrology readings. They have boilerplate fortunes they tell people and adjust certain blanks in the template based on the information you tell them or information they can figure out by looking at you.

Of course the world will change in 2012. It changed a lot in 2011. And a lot in 2010. And in 2001... etc. And with the advent of computer engineering, major world change will continue to happen at an exponential rate year over year.

I'm not saying the earthquake wasn't serious, or the hurricane wasn't, or the tornadoes earlier in the season weren't. They are serious disasters that impacted a lot people, and I cross my fingers for those people. But the thing is, these things happen. Hurricane Bob happened to the northeast just like Irene. These things happen. Remember that the geological time scale is massive, so while it seems like the end of the world to us because a once-in-a-lifetime event occurred, that's still pretty damn frequent on the scale of Earth's timeline.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by bclaire » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:05 pm

Bandeapart wrote:Short answer: No.
exactly....

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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by bavaro » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:59 pm

i can't find the video, but there's a clip out there of the mayan tourism council explain the baktun and all that, and the host just trashes on americans for being ignorant and making it into this elaborate doomsday. instead, she tells everyone to come travel there for a sweet harvest party! it's pretty funny.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by ironlung40 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:25 am

well, it's still 2011, so too early to tell.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by Randy Bass » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:29 am

It helps to recognize that Earth's weather patterns are inherently variable - not constant, so there really is no acceptable baseline to which present conditions can be compared. The reason that a 100-year anomaly seems significant to us can be directly attributed to the relative shortness of our lifespans and the fact that we know very little about weather occurrences on Earth during the preceding thousands or millions of years. That's no reason not to panic though.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by misterMagoo » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:06 am

Haha, I guess my thread title was a bit misleading. I don't ACTUALLY believe in the 2012 horseporn, but it was definitely an intriguing coincidence to have an earthquake (where they never happen), hurricane, and a 100 yr flood event happen all within a span of 2 weeks of each other.

Sorry this thread actually has nothing to do with 2012 mayan theory and everything to do with recent events. My heart goes out to the thousands of people locally who will be spending years repairing the damage and I am going to try to find a way to help, whether through manual labor or else wise. There has been millions of dollars of damages reported so far. People are out of there homes. That sucks.
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by Van Cleef » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:23 am

short answer: no

because if you believe in prophecies, you might as well also believe in unicorns and other such rubbish :)
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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by baytamusic » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:41 am

Supposedly at one point, when the dinosaurs were around, Antarctica was sub-tropical. But the Earth is still here... although the dinosaurs aren't. ;)

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Re: 2012 - Is the Prophecy Beginning?

Post by Randy Bass » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:09 am

Hopefully the Pan Flute bands will continue to protect us all.
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