DIY effect pedals???
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- Duke of Orange
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DIY effect pedals???
Hi All!
The Lady and I have been discussing my need to learn soldering, so that I can try my hand at plumbing....
What better to learn soldering on than on DIY pedal clones?
Where do you guys get yours?
Any UK shop? Not against ordering from the US, but between foreign ex. + shipping + possible Tax, a kit looking more expansive in england might turn out sensibly cheaper.
Neil, what do you use to paint your boxes???
Any recommendations? What's a reasonnably easy pedal to start with?
Am considering phasers, delay, echo, tremolo, clean boosts, perhaps fuzzes.... well..... not too fussy really!!!!
Look forward to reading your ideas!!!! Cheers!!!!!
The Lady and I have been discussing my need to learn soldering, so that I can try my hand at plumbing....
What better to learn soldering on than on DIY pedal clones?
Where do you guys get yours?
Any UK shop? Not against ordering from the US, but between foreign ex. + shipping + possible Tax, a kit looking more expansive in england might turn out sensibly cheaper.
Neil, what do you use to paint your boxes???
Any recommendations? What's a reasonnably easy pedal to start with?
Am considering phasers, delay, echo, tremolo, clean boosts, perhaps fuzzes.... well..... not too fussy really!!!!
Look forward to reading your ideas!!!! Cheers!!!!!
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
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Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Re: DIY effect pedals???
I'll start by saying don't use a flame to solder the pedals
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- Duke of Orange
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
Ah, ah!!!!!
There goes my flame thrower purchase plan.......
There goes my flame thrower purchase plan.......
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
Or a toilet! Keep your plumbing practice away from the DIY pedals!Jondog wrote:I'll start by saying don't use a flame to solder the pedals
Anyways, I dunno about UK based pedal-kit companies, but a fuzz face is about the most simple pedal of all time. There's probably 10 components in the circuit, and it'll teach you how to correctly wire a transistor (which is probably one of the easier components to install wrong, besides diodes or polarized caps backwards)!
Besides that, you can step up and do some overdrive style pedals, or boosts. Most are between 15-30 components and use an op-amp or two.
When you start getting into phasers, delays, reverbs, you start getting more complex circuits (probably intermediate level, even for the basic effects) that can be difficult to debug if you swap a couple leads or solder a component to the wrong junction. I wouldn't start with one of those, but after you get an OD/fuzz/boost or two under your belt, you should be ready to accept the challenge! If you get a kit with a predesigned PCB with labels for components and a picture-schematic and all the necessary components, then they'll probably not too big of a challenge. But if you're building from scratch onto a perf board and laying out the circuit yourself, the more complex circuits for time based effects can be confusing.
Re: DIY effect pedals???
Erm plumbing soldering is totally different to soldering electronics, its closer to braising than anything else.
Re: DIY effect pedals???
Yes, be careful. Plumbing solder has an acid core that will eat your circuits alive if used on electronics.PopnFresh wrote:Erm plumbing soldering is totally different to soldering electronics, its closer to braising than anything else.
To paint boxes I use enamel, automotive if possible, and I buy the boxes pre-powder coated.
Check out http://www.tonepad.com for tips on making your own circuit boards, or you can look at doing other ways, like vero board.
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
Learn to solder, very easy then use push fittings for pluming. Easy both ways!
Tone is everything
Re: DIY effect pedals???
Oddly enough I was watching a show last night and they profiled a Computer modder. He takes things like Beer Kegs and Ammo boxes etc.. and adds clear windows to see through and cool lighting effects displaying the circuitry. He plumbs clear tubing through them which has cool water flowing through them to keep the systems from overheating.
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/11/beerc ... _keg_c.php
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/11/beerc ... _keg_c.php
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
I wanna see a beige box PC tower that dispenses beer. That thing is awesome (except for the part about being the biggest, heaviest computer you could find ). The only thing crazier than that would be to stick a computer inside of an Orange combo amp!Jondog wrote:Oddly enough I was watching a show last night and they profiled a Computer modder. He takes things like Beer Kegs and Ammo boxes etc.. and adds clear windows to see through and cool lighting effects displaying the circuitry. He plumbs clear tubing through them which has cool water flowing through them to keep the systems from overheating.
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/11/beerc ... _keg_c.php
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
YOU....ARE.....IN LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Randy Bass wrote:I wanna see a beige box PC tower that dispenses beer. That thing is awesome (except for the part about being the biggest, heaviest computer you could find ). The only thing crazier than that would be to stick a computer inside of an Orange combo amp!Jondog wrote:Oddly enough I was watching a show last night and they profiled a Computer modder. He takes things like Beer Kegs and Ammo boxes etc.. and adds clear windows to see through and cool lighting effects displaying the circuitry. He plumbs clear tubing through them which has cool water flowing through them to keep the systems from overheating.
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/11/beerc ... _keg_c.php
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- Duke of Orange
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
Honestely didn't know they were different solders!Neiloler wrote:Yes, be careful. Plumbing solder has an acid core that will eat your circuits alive if used on electronics.PopnFresh wrote:Erm plumbing soldering is totally different to soldering electronics, its closer to braising than anything else.
To paint boxes I use enamel, automotive if possible, and I buy the boxes pre-powder coated.
Check out http://www.tonepad.com for tips on making your own circuit boards, or you can look at doing other ways, like vero board.
So those paints sound nice and easy to use! Do you clear coat them too?
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
Used to be an insurance underwriter, pushfit are the cause of so many claims! Single handedely raised the cost of plumbing liability insurance by about 50%! Compression fittings good though.Mrjones2004x wrote:Learn to solder, very easy then use push fittings for pluming. Easy both ways!
Still have to learn to solder!
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
indianDYsummer wrote:Or a toilet! Keep your plumbing practice away from the DIY pedals!Jondog wrote:I'll start by saying don't use a flame to solder the pedals
Anyways, I dunno about UK based pedal-kit companies, but a fuzz face is about the most simple pedal of all time. There's probably 10 components in the circuit, and it'll teach you how to correctly wire a transistor (which is probably one of the easier components to install wrong, besides diodes or polarized caps backwards)!
Besides that, you can step up and do some overdrive style pedals, or boosts. Most are between 15-30 components and use an op-amp or two.
When you start getting into phasers, delays, reverbs, you start getting more complex circuits (probably intermediate level, even for the basic effects) that can be difficult to debug if you swap a couple leads or solder a component to the wrong junction. I wouldn't start with one of those, but after you get an OD/fuzz/boost or two under your belt, you should be ready to accept the challenge! If you get a kit with a predesigned PCB with labels for components and a picture-schematic and all the necessary components, then they'll probably not too big of a challenge. But if you're building from scratch onto a perf board and laying out the circuit yourself, the more complex circuits for time based effects can be confusing.
Just had to take my toilet of my wall twice this weekend... Not keen to do anymore plumbing around that! Yuk!
So a fuzz or a boost might be on the cards!
Sounds very exciting!
Any kit or circuit recommendations?
To go through a RV50 or AD5?
Ant
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
Orange Gear: RV50 MKI, R30, AD15, PPC212
And.... Genz Benz Black Pearl 30
Past Orange: AD30TC Combo, TT, AD5
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded, Vigier Expert Retro 54, Gibson SG 70s Tribute, Aria Pro II RS X80, G&L ASAT Special Tribute
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- Orange Master
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Re: DIY effect pedals???
his wife doesn't have to know thatPopnFresh wrote:Erm plumbing soldering is totally different to soldering electronics, its closer to braising than anything else.
Jason
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too many pedals
Re: DIY effect pedals???
Go on the music radar forum and look up a user called nocaster (Kevin) he supplies a limited range of low cost kits that seem to get excellent tonal results and good user feedback.
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