Amps, Guitars, Drums a thing of the past????

[brianr0131]

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAllFWSl998" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ScottyDanger]

Saw that yesterday, totally awesome! Will iPhones replace real instruments? Hell no. I mean, Kraftwerk have been doing that stuff for like 40 years now, but everyone else is still banging on drums. Drum machines and samplers have been around for so long that if they were going to replace real instruments, it would have happened by now.

inb4 rappers steal music. They don't. They pay for the sample they use (with the exception of Vanilla Ice, but he got sued. See how that works?). Hip-Hop requires real, honest, engineering and musical talent to produce (properly). I know this has nothing to do with what you said, but I wanted to tackle this argument before it inevitably starts 5 posts from now.

[misterMagoo]

inb4 rappers steal music. They don't. They pay for the sample they use (with the exception of Vanilla Ice, but he got sued. See how that works?). Hip-Hop requires real, honest, engineering and musical talent to produce (properly). I know this has nothing to do with what you said, but I wanted to tackle this argument before it inevitably starts 5 posts from now.

Not always. I'm a fan of rap (some anyway) and I have to say that some times its great, sometimes its just pile of poop. The idea that sampling music and just speeding it up really gets me, its been overdone is approached pretty lazily half the time. If you want real hip hop check out Common or the Roots.

[ScottyDanger]

inb4 rappers steal music. They don't. They pay for the sample they use (with the exception of Vanilla Ice, but he got sued. See how that works?). Hip-Hop requires real, honest, engineering and musical talent to produce (properly). I know this has nothing to do with what you said, but I wanted to tackle this argument before it inevitably starts 5 posts from now.

Not always. I'm a fan of rap (some anyway) and I have to say that some times its great, sometimes its just ****. The idea that sampling music and just speeding it up really gets me, its been overdone is approached pretty lazily half the time. If you want real hip hop check out Common or the Roots.

Yeah, that's why I said "properly" haha besides, there's a huge difference between rap and hip-hop, but at the end of the day neither of them are stealing their samples, that was just my point. Some sampling is crap, some of it is rather awesome (numa numa in that Rihanna song, I'll even admit that Flo Rida's use of Right Round was genius in a catchy way). Also, Kanye West is the modern king of sampling. Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irb335ThCdo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Wendigo]

It wouldn't matter to me if they played that song on real instruments: it would still be a generic middle class dweeb tune that nobody will remember 5 minutes after listening to it.

[David Verb]

inb4 rappers steal music. They don't. They pay for the sample they use (with the exception of Vanilla Ice, but he got sued. See how that works?). Hip-Hop requires real, honest, engineering and musical talent to produce (properly). I know this has nothing to do with what you said, but I wanted to tackle this argument before it inevitably starts 5 posts from now.

Not always. I'm a fan of rap (some anyway) and I have to say that some times its great, sometimes its just ****. The idea that sampling music and just speeding it up really gets me, its been overdone is approached pretty lazily half the time. If you want real hip hop check out Common or the Roots.

Yeah, that's why I said "properly" haha besides, there's a huge difference between rap and hip-hop, but at the end of the day neither of them are stealing their samples, that was just my point. Some sampling is crap, some of it is rather awesome (numa numa in that Rihanna song, I'll even admit that Flo Rida's use of Right Round was genius in a catchy way). Also, Kanye West is the modern king of sampling. Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irb335ThCdo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What I would like to point out... is that sampling just usurps the nostalgia of already well written songs. As a 23 year old, I can identify with music from my parents generation, and new music business capitalises on that.

E.g. dongle-narf Dale - Misirlou VS Black Eyed Peas - Pump It
Gloria Gaynour - I will survive VS feline Cat Dolls - Hush Hush

When is pop culture going to move forward? What are my children going to believe was nostalgic of my generation... David Guetta?

Will they be listening to remixes... of remixes?

P.S. +1 on The Roots

P.P.S. Time for a new thread on pop culture?

[misterMagoo]

inb4 rappers steal music. They don't. They pay for the sample they use (with the exception of Vanilla Ice, but he got sued. See how that works?). Hip-Hop requires real, honest, engineering and musical talent to produce (properly). I know this has nothing to do with what you said, but I wanted to tackle this argument before it inevitably starts 5 posts from now.

Not always. I'm a fan of rap (some anyway) and I have to say that some times its great, sometimes its just ****. The idea that sampling music and just speeding it up really gets me, its been overdone is approached pretty lazily half the time. If you want real hip hop check out Common or the Roots.

Yeah, that's why I said "properly" haha besides, there's a huge difference between rap and hip-hop, but at the end of the day neither of them are stealing their samples, that was just my point. Some sampling is crap, some of it is rather awesome (numa numa in that Rihanna song, I'll even admit that Flo Rida's use of Right Round was genius in a catchy way). Also, Kanye West is the modern king of sampling. Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irb335ThCdo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Properly produced and well written are two different things, IMO. The song could sound great from a producing pov, and still have pile of poop lyrics, and be gimmicky, or just garbage.

[misterMagoo]

BTW i just watched the original post vid and was surprised how good the guitar sounded. Haha.

[Randy Bass]

My new Hip-Hop single drops next month. It's called "U Can Touch This, But I Wouldn't Recommend It" .

[annostyle]

Scratch the surface and there's lots of good hip hop out there. Mainstream rap is in it's 80's hair metal phase right now. Meaning everything sounds the same, looks the same, predictable, crap. Soon someone will come and blow it all away. Change hip hop altogether.

[brianr0131]

BTW i just watched the original post vid and was surprised how good the guitar sounded. Haha.

I was pretty impressed too. It's crazy what a phone can do today. Apple should make a commercial with that.

[Le Chat Noir]

Amps, Guitars, Drums a thing of the past????

No.

Next question...

[brianr0131]

Amps, Guitars, Drums a thing of the past????

No.

Next question...

Surely you jest.

no wait, surely I jested.

Ahh damn it stop calling people Shirley.

I just thought it would be a good topic on here. I'm surprised it morphed into a sampling/rap debate. It's a video clearly staged to become a youtube sensation kind of thing, but I just found it to be actually pretty cool all things considered.

[misterMagoo]

Do you think it was staged? It looked somewhat real, although the girl may have been an extra Either that or someone left with her number. The old guy behind them looked like he could care less.

[brianr0131]

Do you think it was staged? It looked somewhat real, although the girl may have been an extra Either that or someone left with her number. The old guy behind them looked like he could care less.

Well it certainly wasn't impromptu as a result of having their instruments stolen LOL that's really what I meant. Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and it's cool. It just doesn't exactly pass the sniff test for me.

That's cool though. Everyone deserves their 15 minutes. Right?