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Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Neiloler » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:23 am

I'm looking for some ideas of new EL34s to use in my R30. I think my tubes need replacing, they sounded thiner than I remember today (and it could have also been the fact I've not played with the amp in a few months, so I'm taking the into consider too)

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Neiloler » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:43 am

How about the Tung-Sol offering? People seem to dig it on the interwebaz:

http://tubedepot.com/ts-el34b.html

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Brutalitarian Supremacy » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:56 am

I've heard good things about these babies...been wanting to give em a test run, but alas i'm too freakin broke to even think about it...from what i've read they can take serious punishment and still keep coming back for more...some folks have complained that they lack low end BUT I guess it takes approx. 100 hrs to break em in...and then it's on
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by BrianGT » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:44 am

Svetlana Winged C's.....really, really good valves.
I use both 34's and 6L6's and they last too.
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by _Craig_ » Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:48 pm

Im using Harma Retro EL84's with Tung Sol's in the preamp in my AD30. Personally i think they're a great sounding combination, maybe worth trying out in your Rocker.

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Le Chat Noir » Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:23 pm

BrianGT wrote:Svetlana Winged C's.....really, really good valves.
I use both 34's and 6L6's and they last too.
+1 - I'd suggest some Winged C too, Harma are great but do not represent value for money if you're not UK-based.

Be sure to buy proper winged C Svetlanas, not the ones from the other factory bearing the same brand name!

The real deal have a winged c logo on them, like so:

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The 'other' Svetlanas look like this:

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Neiloler » Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:31 pm

Cool, thanks guys. I've got some Winged Cs sitting around, I tried 'em out last time and they sounded slightly less output than the EHX tubes in there now, but I think I'm a bit older and wise, and so are the EHX tubes, so I'll try 'em out. ;)

Thanks guys. :)

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by wrath » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:01 pm

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by AJS19 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:06 pm

I'd say Winged C's. Or JJ's maybe. 8)
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by yossarian83 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:12 pm

I recently replaced Winged C's with GT EL34M's in my OD80 and the GT's have a much bigger, fuller sound. Nowhere near as scooped as the Winged C's. I highly recommend them.

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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by nguideau » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:56 pm

Neil, do let us know how the Winged C's sound! :)
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Fuzzfarmer » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:43 pm

Brutalitarian Supremacy wrote:I've heard good things about these babies...been wanting to give em a test run, but alas i'm too freakin broke to even think about it...from what i've read they can take serious punishment and still keep coming back for more...some folks have complained that they lack low end BUT I guess it takes approx. 100 hrs to break em in...and then it's on
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by MaxProphet » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:34 pm

i recently got a el34 amp, haven't tried anything new in it yet (has EHX i think) but have shopped around. From what i hear/read the extra bass of an EL34L (longer plates?) variant is good for open combos, as well is having welded plates for durability against the combo "war-zone"
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by TheOrangeJuicer » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:14 am

I agree that the Winged C tubes are a rather warm sounding EL34 and their 6550 is as well, but not for this amp. The GT EL34M is indeed a very good tube. I am not sure about a KT77 in the combo. I don't recall if I tried them or not. There is very little room in there due to the tubes proximity to the loudspeaker magnet. KT77 have deeper bass (if you'd ever hear it with guitar frequencies...) and has extended highs as well. So if anything, it may just sound more dynamic and clean. It'll give the amp some more headroom. You just need to be comfortable that they'll fit and not expect a warmer and softer sound than an EL34.
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Re: Your Favorite Big, thick, powerful EL34, if you please.

Post by Neiloler » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:48 am

I tried out JJ KT77s a while back, and I dug the tone, but more as a tool in the studio, not a solo amp tone (as in, when I'm gigging with one amp, that wouldn't be what I'd want).

I tried out the Wing Cs, sounded a bit fuller. I also noticed that most of the time with the Wing C, one of the power tubes wasn't lighting up AT ALL. Yeah. Maybe a socket trouble, maybe that I need to do some investigation inside. So it's cooling down now, then I'll drain the caps (DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!!!) and check out the connections. Now I'm wondering if the slightly wimpier tone wasn't just a power tube not working...

...but I'm pretty sure the R30 can't run on just one tube...right?

Do we have a schematic anywhere?

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