Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

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Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

Post by Ronnie Robinson » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:24 pm

I use a Rocker 30 and for the last three years since ive had it, have always used the Dirty channel for Crunch and a booster pedal for lead breaks, but recently since the other guitarist has got a new Marshall Ive struggled to get a lead sound with sufficient volume despite turning the booster up - I believe this is down to the compression of the sound when adding gain to an already overdriven channel.

Im now thinking of overdriving the clean channel with a pedal for Crunch and using the Dirty channel for lead breaks - Does anyone do this? My head tells me its a bit of a waste of the dirty channel which provides such good crunch.
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Re: Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

Post by kittenface » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:27 pm

try it and see for yourself - lots of players do that with great results
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Re: Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

Post by spectre » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:52 pm

It is a bit of a waste of the Dirty channel......

I personally find the Dirty channel is better for crunch than for lead. I use a bunch of pedals to get the lead sounds I want on top of both channels.

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Re: Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

Post by blackcloud45 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:11 pm

Search the forum. This topic pops up weekly. We have yet to find a definitive solution... sorry. I'm playing mainly on my RV50 halfstack and actually using the Rocker 30C as a boost.
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Re: Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

Post by irish_admiral » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:45 pm

Set up your dirty channel for crunch with your guitar volume at 70%, then roll up for lead breaks... the other guy having more volume shouldn't be an issue live: that should be the soundman's problem.

If it's causing you trouble, tell him to face his amp in another direction.
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Re: Compression of sound- more volume needed for lead

Post by blacklight_uk » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:20 am

Get your amp up high and tell your other guitarist to turn down. Sound guys will also appreciate this act of kindness/mercy :mrgreen:
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