New here and - Another PPC112 or PPC212 for TT Advice Please

Blainy · Post by **Blainy** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:47 pm

You would, as long as your PPC112 is 16 Ohms (some of the early ones are 8 ohm)

My stack is actually a Rocker 30 Combo under a PPC112. This is a flexible option, if you can coerse some more money out of the domestic system!

GaryM · Post by **GaryM** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:32 pm

Cheers Blainy

My 112 is 16ohm so I'll give it a go. I did ask a sales guy in a music shop in Leeds and he said something about the 212 only using one speaker if you use the 8ohm from your amp. Sounded a bit like he didn't really know what he was talking about so that made two of us.

I'm one of those guys that never settles with what I've got. I love to experiment and if I think it's going to make a difference I will try it. On the other hand, I must admit that since owning my Tiny Terror I'm finding that more and more I'm happy with the sound I'm getting and am reluctant to do stuff to change it. That's gota be a good sign????

Only last week I though "Mmmm With a 212 a 112 and the Tiny Terror I could probably get Ã‚Â£450 on Ebay. That could buy me a DSL401."

Then I switched my Terror on and played it for an hour.

The rest is history.

Cheers

GaryM

Taronja · Post by **Taronja** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:26 am

GaryM wrote:Cheers Blainy

I could probably get Ã‚Â£450 on Ebay. That could buy me a DSL401."

Then I switched my Terror on and played it for an hour.

GaryM

a DSL401 is a massive sounding amp compared to a TT, it really depends on what your doing thou.

have you ever compared the DSL wit the TT ? the TT is a practice amp and a DSL401 is MUCH more practical for a band situation, but really boils down to what YOU like and are after. folks on here do use the TT for band/live use.

Jon

GaryM · Post by **GaryM** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:42 pm

Wow Fme and MASSIVE WOW. I've only gone and done it.

What a fantastic sound. The TT is well loud enough for a live situation. Especially now that I've got me a 212.

Loving it large and living the dream.

Thanks for all your advice folks. just look at this baby.......

I love Orange.

GaryM

Taronja · Post by **Taronja** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:45 pm

wow, cool awesome. great choice.

Jon

Nork · Post by **Nork** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:28 pm

from what i've heard no, you can't hook up the two cabs from the back of the amp (i.e. 16ohm 212 and 8ohm 112). I'm pretty sure the output transformer can't handle this and you'd have and expensive paper weight for a bit. You can daisy chain them, but I believe that the speakers all need to have the same impedance, which your situation doesn't have.

as cool as it would be, you really won't need the 112. a 312 stack would rock, however. but the speakers are the same in all of them (all V30's). If you had a G12M25 or AlNico Blue/Silver or a Weber P12Q (that's what I have in mine...love it!), then you'd hear quite a difference. Or even start messing around with speaker combo's in your 212. That's a whole other world!!!

Nork · Post by **Nork** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:29 pm

from what i've heard no, you can't hook up the two cabs from the back of the amp (i.e. 16ohm 212 and 8ohm 112). I'm pretty sure the output transformer can't handle this and you'd have and expensive paper weight for a bit. You can daisy chain them, but I believe that the speakers all need to have the same impedance, which your situation doesn't have.

as cool as it would be, you really won't need the 112. a 312 stack would rock, however. but the speakers are the same in all of them (all V30's). If you had a G12M25 or AlNico Blue/Silver or a Weber P12Q (that's what I have in mine...love it!), then you'd hear quite a difference. Or even start messing around with speaker combo's in your 212. That's a whole other world!!!

Nork · Post by **Nork** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:30 pm

from what i've heard no, you can't hook up the two cabs from the back of the amp (i.e. 16ohm 212 and 8ohm 112). I'm pretty sure the output transformer can't handle this and you'd have and expensive paper weight for a bit. You can daisy chain them, but I believe that the speakers all need to have the same impedance, which your situation doesn't have.

as cool as it would be, you really won't need the 112. a 312 stack would rock, however. but the speakers are the same in all of them (all V30's). If you had a G12M25 or AlNico Blue/Silver or a Weber P12Q (that's what I have in mine...love it!), then you'd hear quite a difference. Or even start messing around with speaker combo's in your 212. That's a whole other world!!!

GaryM · Post by **GaryM** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:56 am

Cheers Nork, Just to let you know my 112 Orange cab is 16ohm not 8 as you say. If I'm correct, the earlier 112's were 8ohms where as the newer ones are 16ohms.

Please correct me if I'm wrong as the guy I bought the amp and cab from said it was 16ohm. I might open her up and have look.

If this is the case then I can use both 212 & 112 from the 8ohm's on the back of the TT yes...???

Cheers

GaryM

Hgain · Post by **Hgain** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:14 pm

Get a 4x12 and be done with it....you will not regret the sound

Nork · Post by **Nork** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:29 pm

@GaryM - I wasn't aware that you could use both 8ohm outs wit the 16ohm cabs. The quick manual online says you can. I'd heard that you shouldn't do that, but i guess it makes a little sense (amp only ends up seeing 16ohms on the output end). So for my education also, I'm bumping that question.

I have an 8ohm Avatar 112 with a Weber AlNico 1225 (their copy of an old Jensen P12Q that was put in the Fender Deluxes). I love the sound of mine. Webers rock.

So is this true then? Am I a real NOOB for believing that you couldn't run two cabs outta the back of the amp?

Blainy · Post by **Blainy** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:54 pm

Just to recap. Never mix 8 and 16 Ohm. Use 8 in the 8 socket, 16 in the 16 socket, or 2 x 16 in the two 8 sockets. Enjoy!

Ronin_on_bass-Matt · Post by **Ronin_on_bass-Matt** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:33 am

GaryM wrote:That is something I'm trying to get answers on. Would I be able to run both a 212 and 112 at the same time from the 8ohms on the TT.

According to the pic on the main page

its a 16ohm cab so as long as the other cab is 16ohms you can run it through the two 8 ohm connectors at the back.

guilleonline · Post by **guilleonline** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:31 am

Hey would you do me a great favor!!

could you stack the ppc 212 sideways with the ppc 112 on top with the TT at the very top??

I haven't found a pic with that combo anywhere.

I have a Dual terror, but in two weeks I am getting the TH30 and was wondering about getting a 212 or not. It would be great to see the miss-matched stack of ppc's.

and by the way...if you did plug both cabs at the same time..how was the sound?

Latrainia · Post by **Latrainia** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:51 am

I'm not 100% about this, i can be confused from time to time. But if i remember correctly you can't plug a 16ohm cab into an 8ohm amp. Reason behind this: ohms are resistance the higher the number the higher the resistance. an amp needs to be able to off load its electrical load other wise it will fry. Think of it as a water hose, you have your hose and put 8 ohms on it...the hose is slightly more constricted, put 16 ohm on after that and it constricts the flow more and causes back up...overloading your amp. You can do it vice versa though your amps 16ohm jack into an 8 ohm speaker cab...i hope that made sense...

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