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Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:53 pm

Sorry, I forgot to write 'lo fi and disgusting most of the time IN MY OPINION'... I know how touchy this forum gets about strong opinions currently

But seriously, like I say I do love Pavement, just not a big fan of their early production values... I love Terror Twilight the best, and I think the more polished sound has a lot to do with that, sinful as that might be in some schools of thought. A good example for me is the song In The Mouth A Desert, which is one of my favourites of theirs, but I have live versions of that song which really rock and feel a lot better than the rather dry album track. Um, IN MY OPINION.

nguideau · Post by **nguideau** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:42 pm

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 Sorry, I forgot to write 'lo fi and disgusting most of the time IN MY OPINION'... I know how touchy this forum gets about strong opinions currently

But seriously, like I say I do love Pavement, just not a big fan of their early production values... I love Terror Twilight the best, and I think the more polished sound has a lot to do with that, sinful as that might be in some schools of thought. A good example for me is the song In The Mouth A Desert, which is one of my favourites of theirs, but I have live versions of that song which really rock and feel a lot better than the rather dry album track. Um, IN MY OPINION.

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A number of the live bootlegs are excellent, and all their Peel sessions are amazing. Only thing that disappoints me about the Peel sessions is that they didn't do MORE of them so we could get more of their library in that "live studio" setting.

If you like TT, pick up the self-titled Stephen Malkmus LP. Even more straight pop than TT, but you'll probably still like it. It was the obvious next step from TT, I think.

And no worries, I was just kidding around, we all have different tastes. I picked up on the tone from your winking smiley face too.

So long as you like Pavement in some way, we can be friends.

MSP · Post by **MSP** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:47 pm

Tristan, mash that Brian Jonestown Massacre clip with this Ride one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ZVzEatMdg

Max Prophet, that Splinter pedal looks really awesome actually.

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:55 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by nguideau
If you like TT, pick up the self-titled Stephen Malkmus LP. Even more straight pop than TT, but you'll probably still like it. It was the obvious next step from TT, I think.
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I do love that first Malkmus solo effort, Jojo's Jacket and Jenny and the Ess Dog are simply wonderfully crafted pop songs! They should've been huge! I have seen him live a few times, first time was just after pavement split and he played a lot of stuff from TT, then the last time he'd just released his second solo E.P. and didn't even play any of the 'hits' from his first solo record, instead opting for impromptu 7-minute bad solos for a lot of the songs

Was still fun though, that guy is unique, I just love his stream of consciousness lyrics, so wacky.

Van Cleef · Post by **Van Cleef** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:31 am

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And Van Cleef, don't forget the INCREDIBLE Swervedriver!
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oh matey i didn't forget them - i know they're usually on those lists but personally i consider them a straight up rocking band...

had the pleasure of having a 'session' with them involving some extremely heinously strong green vegetable matter backstage after a show when they played here in 94...

there were rumours they'd reformed or were thinking about it - - i would love to see them again

fat controller · Post by **fat controller** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:41 am

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there were rumours they'd reformed or were thinking about it - - i would love to see them again
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True dat. Adam borrowed the vintage JM of my Dave's sales guy.

Van Cleef · Post by **Van Cleef** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:50 am

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True dat. Adam borrowed the vintage JM of my Dave's sales guy.
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coolio... wonder if they'll get by oz

hmmm a quick google tells me he cammer here in feb doing solo stuff...

MSP · Post by **MSP** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:44 am

By the way Fat Controller, I checked out Mid-Fi, and the Psych Byke has some really awesome sounds but waaay too compressed and gated sounded, like there's no way any notes will ring with that.

nguideau · Post by **nguideau** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:45 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Le Chat Noir

I do love that first Malkmus solo effort, Jojo's Jacket and Jenny and the Ess Dog are simply wonderfully crafted pop songs! They should've been huge! I have seen him live a few times, first time was just after pavement split and he played a lot of stuff from TT, then the last time he'd just released his second solo E.P. and didn't even play any of the 'hits' from his first solo record, instead opting for impromptu 7-minute bad solos for a lot of the songs

Was still fun though, that guy is unique, I just love his stream of consciousness lyrics, so wacky.
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Hahaha, classic Malkmus, that's for sure. His licks have gotten much better over the last four or five years, he can actually belt 'em out live for real now. But I always liked the half-botched solos, made the music seem more honest and less cliche to me... this has gotten so OT, but it was good chatting with ya!

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:46 pm

Yeah, I love the way with his stuff it all sounds like it's a bit sloppily played and shouldn't quite fit together, but somehow as a whole it all miraculously gels into something amazing

Uh, yeah, sorry for hijacking the thread, can't resist a good chinwag about Pavement though, as sadly they're hardly ever namedropped these days!

Van Cleef · Post by **Van Cleef** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:16 am

slanted and enchanted was a fantastic lo-fi trainwreck of an album - - i still think it's their best stuff... along with crooked rain crooked rain...

i'm lucky enough to have seen them with 'both drummers'... the first guy was hilarious, standing at the door of the venue, giving away all of the band's food to punters as they waited in line

adamanteus · Post by **adamanteus** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:56 am

death by audio - fuzz war?

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