Orange font

fredaubailly · Post by **fredaubailly** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:36 pm

Hey,

I read a few days ago that somebody here made an Orange font. I'd like to get a look at it but I can't find it...
I already tried the search but I just got 750 pages of matching result...

Anybody knows ?

Thanks.

Y0UNGBL00D · Post by **Y0UNGBL00D** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:44 pm

i would also like to see this...

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:36 pm

EDIT: removed it, as not really liking talk of legal action...

fredaubailly · Post by **fredaubailly** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:52 pm

Thanks a lot.

crash · Post by **crash** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:38 pm

Schweet!

kungfu · Post by **kungfu** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:07 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Le Chat Noir
 http://rapidshare.com/files/155553274/o ... t.ttf.html

Here it is, I just uploaded it to rapidshare. Enjoy. I have no idea about the legalities of this, not sure who created the font as it is here, I don't think Orange have copyright on it though as otherwise Matamp etc wouldn't be able to use it.
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Thanks a lot!!

Post by **alexauxier** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:25 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Le Chat Noir
 http://rapidshare.com/files/155553274/o ... t.ttf.html

Here it is, I just uploaded it to rapidshare. Enjoy. I have no idea about the legalities of this, not sure who created the font as it is here, I don't think Orange have copyright on it though as otherwise Matamp etc wouldn't be able to use it.
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Tough to have a copyright on something you didn't create. To my knowledge we only have trademark rights on the entire logo as a whole, or perhaps just the O-R-A-N-G-E since the rest of the font was created by someone else entirely.

Don't quote me on that, though, since you could potentially get sued.

neonrust · Post by **neonrust** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:48 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by alexauxier
 since you could potentially get sued.

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Font lawsuit!?

What a world we live in.

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:49 am

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by alexauxier
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Le Chat Noir
 http://rapidshare.com/files/155553274/o ... t.ttf.html

Here it is, I just uploaded it to rapidshare. Enjoy. I have no idea about the legalities of this, not sure who created the font as it is here, I don't think Orange have copyright on it though as otherwise Matamp etc wouldn't be able to use it.
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Tough to have a copyright on something you didn't create. To my knowledge we only have trademark rights on the entire logo as a whole, or perhaps just the O-R-A-N-G-E since the rest of the font was created by someone else entirely.

Don't quote me on that, though, since you could potentially get sued.

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The 'creator' of this font its Orange context, was my mother - who took the letters from a 60s typesetting book, I believe. I have the original draft to prove it, and Cliff confirmed that he remembers that when we wrote to him a few years ago.

As you say, I doubt Orange could sue for using the font in other ways, or I'd imagine Matamp and Electric Amp would've felt the burn a long time ago.

However, I have removed it from public access. If anyone is interested in the font, private message me - or if Orange wish me not to keep it, please contact me privately. I'd like to point out again that I was not the creator of this version of the font, it was another forum member - can't remember who that was now!

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:34 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joker
That's interesting, particularly since the US patent office lists the "inventor" as fellow forum member Richard Crediton-Hughes
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Well, I don't know what I can say. I found the original typesetting board with the letters cut out and stuck on it when we were cleaning out my gran's house after she died, it was in amongst all my mum's art stuff from college - then she told me how she knew Cliff when he first started orange. She helped him as he was setting up the shop, and she did the typesetting on the logo as a favour (she is a graphic designer). I see no reason why she'd lie to me about that.

Here it is, along with a few other photos that were with it:

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:38 pm

P.S. I'm not claiming my mum owns the copyright in any way - she did the logo as a favour, and I am sure no official documents came into it at any stage.

Perhaps the current 'filled in' letters are considered a new typeface and were patented separately at a later date, as those letters there in that style predate Orange's existence by a decade or two. I've no idea how copyrighting works in typefaces - perhaps the copyright expired and Orange renewed it in their name?

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:52 pm

It's interesting that the patent was registered in 2007 and says it shows a 'face view of a type font showing my new design' - when clearly the font has existed for many decades prior to that. It appears to simply be a filled-in version of that 60s-70s font, with no other alterations. All a bit weird, if you ask me. It says the time the patent applies for is 14 years, so presumably if that is standard, the old patent could easily have expired.

I'm also intrigued by the Electric Amp reference! I thought those guys were a part of Matamp, then went their separate ways, but I wasn't aware of any connection to Orange. The plot thickens.

Satanic_Versus · Post by **Satanic_Versus** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:12 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joker
 I think your Mom should sue Orange, Matamp, and Electric Amp!!!

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ahhh man!!!! think about all the free Orange, Matamp and Electric amp stuff you could get from a settlement

WOW!!!!!

Jon

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:39 pm

Hehe, much as I'd like lots of free Orange stuff...

...as I said, she didn't do it as a profit thing anyhow and no legal stuff was ever signed, she was just happy to help. I'm pretty sure if anyone holds the rights, it'd be Cliff or whoever he has signed it to. That patent above is a bit weird, but I'm sure it is also patented separately in the UK.

Norrin Radd · Post by **Norrin Radd** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:27 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joker
 So I emailed Richard asking about the font and patent and here are his responses:

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Awesome info! Thanks Sooner.

Orange font

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