Marshall Vs Orange

tom24 · Post by **tom24** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:18 am

hey guys, im new to this, but anyway

im a thrash/heavy/progressive metal player in a band, and iv recently been looking @ Oranges Rockerverb 50
I have also been looking at Marshalls JCM 800
for $100 extra i can get a Rockerverb 50
just wondering what would be best for my style of music, cause i dont wanna spend lots of $$$ on footpedals to help drive the marshall along
any ideas?

thx 4 replys

tom

Le Chat Noir · Post by **Le Chat Noir** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:05 am

The only reasonable answer to this is 'try both and see what you think' - particularly relevant to JCM800s as there were many variations, with some being highly prized and others considered pretty duff.

Orphin · Post by **Orphin** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:41 pm

In your situation if I had to choose between the JCM800 and the RV50 I definitely would go for the JCM800.
But really, I wouldn't look twice to neither of these amps.

Instead I would look into a real tool for the occation. Something like Mesa, Diezel, Bad Cat, among many others..
Something american hi-gain.

tom24 · Post by **tom24** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:46 pm

hmmm
id prefer EL34s for that crunchy pom sound
i dislike mesa, there expensive, and you dont get bang for your buck

but hmm, i spose

Post by **bclaire** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:00 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tom24
 hmmm
id prefer EL34s for that crunchy pom sound
i dislike mesa, there expensive, and you dont get bang for your buck

but hmm, i spose
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Well, the bottom line is, you need to play and listen to those amps...

I think the Mesa or the Orange is going to be the amp to suit you- either that or a modern Marshall like the 4 channel Marshall- very versatile.

tom24 · Post by **tom24** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:03 pm

yeah i was thinking JVM410h but moneys the problem :/
there like $3600 here
JCM 800s are $2300
Rocker 50H are $2400
and yeah
:/
mesas are 3k+

irish_admiral · Post by **irish_admiral** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:25 pm

How about a Peavey 5150? Classic amp for what you want.

I'm not sure you'd want the Orange. If you're going for the traditional scooped sounds, you'll find it pretty hard going with a Rockerverb. A Marshall or the Peavey might be a much better bet.

MaxProphet · Post by **MaxProphet** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:25 pm

krank maybe?

blackcloud45 · Post by **blackcloud45** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:47 pm

EVH 5150III = great high gain head. Also look at Hughes & Ketner Triamp. Otherwise the Orange beats the Marshall ANY day of the week.

johnnyblues · Post by **johnnyblues** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:56 pm

Get a B-52 AT-100. Poor man's mesa.

guitarmy50 · Post by **guitarmy50** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:08 pm

Could you give us a few bands who have the sound you're going for? For thrashy/heavy stuff I prefer a Marshall JMP with a boost pedal...pretty low gain but still plenty of balls and heaviness.

DarkPoet · Post by **DarkPoet** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:25 pm

I am one of the metal guys here who swears by Orange, but the metal I play is more of a stoner/sludge. I have no problems getting a ball crushing heavy sound from my rockerverb 50, but it is a much more organic sound then say a Mesa. If you want more of that buzz saw sound for lots of runs, and progressive single note dancing with tons of gain, you might be better off with a Mesa, or a Krank. Both great amps IMO. Obviously, you need to A/B them to know for sure.

Also, another amp that isn't mentioned much, but I think sounds great for heavy music, is Laney. I have played a few and thought they had a really good base tone.

airforce_brian · Post by **airforce_brian** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:33 pm

Unless the JCM 800 is modded, it definitely won't have enough gain for what you are looking for. The RV-50 is a lot more versatile. You can get metal type tones out of it, but I wouldn't say that is what it excels at. I agree with others on here, check out the Peavey 5150's, they are totally metal amps, and probably more in your price range.

nerd · Post by **nerd** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:54 pm

JCM 800 with a clean boost.

Drdos · Post by **Drdos** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:14 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tom24
 hey guys, im new to this, but anyway

im a thrash/heavy/progressive metal player in a band, and iv recently been looking @ Oranges Rockerverb 50
I have also been looking at Marshalls JCM 800
for $100 extra i can get a Rockerverb 50
just wondering what would be best for my style of music, cause i dont wanna spend lots of $$$ on footpedals to help drive the marshall along
any ideas?

thx 4 replys

tom
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Krank....

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