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Post by katarzis » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:29 pm

anyone tried the V30 + g12H Heritage combination in the PPC212 cab?

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Post by stevo2112 » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:59 pm

i'd wondered that too- considered buying that combo in an avatar contemporary (knockoff), but was concerned about the wattage difference.

i wan't to hear some opinions on the new 40th anniversary cab- with g12hs stock.
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Post by VanR » Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:41 pm

That combo will only be a 60 watt cab. Not much fudge factor for a 50 head. 50 watt tube amps can produce as much as 80 or 90 watts when driven full on. Be careful
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Post by katarzis » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:35 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by VanR</i>
<br />That combo will only be a 60 watt cab. Not much fudge factor for a 50 head. 50 watt tube amps can produce as much as 80 or 90 watts when driven full on. Be careful
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well the stock cab or the RV50 Combo comes with 2 V30 = 60 watt,
so i don't think that would be a problem.

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Post by hamfist » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:25 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by katarzis</i>
well the stock cab or the RV50 Combo comes with 2 V30 = 60 watt,
so i don't think that would be a problem.
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Each V30 handles 60W, so a 2 x V30 cab can handle 120W, which (pause whilst checks on fingers and thumbs) is twice what a pair of G12H-30's will handle. ;)
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Post by farwood » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:31 pm

this man speaks the truth:)

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Post by Andy H. » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:02 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by VanR</i>
<br />That combo will only be a 60 watt cab. Not much fudge factor for a 50 head. 50 watt tube amps can produce as much as 80 or 90 watts when driven full on. Be careful
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">They are Celestions - they'll take it! ;)

Seriously - I'm not joking there. Celestion, unlike most manufacturers, rate their products conservatively enough that speakers rated for the (clean) output rating of a valve amp will generally also handle the amp when cranked to full output. Just something Celestion have always done. 8)

There <u>are</u> exceptions of course. I've been advised by a tech I trust the the Rocker 30 could probably easily enough blow a 30w Celestion, even if the less peaky (more compressed) AD30 wouldn't. And many of the super powerful old '100w Plexi' Marshalls would put out 140 or so watts clean, way more fully driven. 100w worth of Celestions wouldn't handle those amps, which is where twin 4x12 Marshall 'full stacks' came from!!! But a single 100w rated Celestion loaded cab will cope with most 'normal' 100w valve amps, and the 60w rated 2x12 should also handle the 4 x 6V6 RV50 fine IMO. :)


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Post by VanR » Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:44 pm

Well perhaps I read his intentions wrong, but I thought he was going to remove one V30 and install a g12H30 instead. Maybe he was just going to add another cab with that configuration.
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