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Post by 77custom » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:49 pm

The orange site states that the Reverbrocker 50 has 2 6V6 for the output tubes. I thought it had EL34's!

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Post by onewaycpr » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:58 pm

nah dude it has 6v6's. The RV100 has the 34's

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Post by hamfist » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:00 pm

For accuracy, I will mention that the RV50 has 4 x 6V6's not two.
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Post by onewaycpr » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:02 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by hamfist</i>
<br />For accuracy, I will mention that the RV50 has 4 x 6V6's not two.
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yea that too...

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Post by 77custom » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:08 pm

That seems wierd to me because the R30 uses EL34's (25 watts max disapation per tube)for 30 watts and 6V6's in the RV50 for 50 watts(12 watts max disapation per tube which equals 50 watts).
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Post by PopnFresh » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:38 pm

Erm isnt this because the 30 is class A, the 50 class A/B?
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Post by 77custom » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:46 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by PopnFresh</i>
<br />Erm isnt this because the 30 is class A, the 50 class A/B?
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good point !!!:oops:
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Post by blackcloud45 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:49 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by hamfist</i>
<br />For accuracy, I will mention that the RV50 has 4 x 6V6's not two.
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+1.

6V6 = best tube on the world IMO.
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Post by Borderline Productions » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:11 pm

Instead of having the RV50 be a half-strength version of the RV100 they chose to use different powertubes to give it a different sound.

The 6V6s are found only in a few amps.
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Post by rrrajo » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:05 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Borderline Productions</i>


The 6V6s are found only in a few amps.
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Post by Neiloler » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:04 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by 77custom</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by PopnFresh</i>
<br />Erm isnt this because the 30 is class A, the 50 class A/B?
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good point !!!:oops:
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Nope, the Rocker 30 isn't class A, it's A/B as it's got a phase inverter tube in it, thus the power tubes are in push pull config.

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Post by Andy H. » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:27 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by 77custom</i>
<br />That seems wierd to me because the R30 uses EL34's (25 watts <b>max</b> disapation per tube)for 30 watts and 6V6's in the RV50 for 50 watts(12 watts <b>max</b> disapation per tube which equals 50 watts).
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Those are <b>maxima</b>. Whether an amp will ever use that potential depends on a lot of other things than just the valves. Like the whole power amp circuit design basically. But you can run the valves at any power below that maximum you like! ;)
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by 77custom</i>
The orange site states that the <b>Reverbrocker 50</b> has 2 6V6 for the output tubes.
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Was <i>that</i> a mis-print? [:p]


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Post by Andy H. » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:43 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Neiloler</i>
<br />Nope, the Rocker 30 isn't class A, it's A/B as it's got a phase inverter tube in it, thus the power tubes are in push pull config.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The R.30 isn't class A, true enough. But that hasn't anything to do with it being a push pull amp. You <i>can</i> get push pull class A amps... ;)

http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.p ... d,parallel


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Post by PopnFresh » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:24 pm

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Andy H.</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Neiloler</i>
<br />Nope, the Rocker 30 isn't class A, it's A/B as it's got a phase inverter tube in it, thus the power tubes are in push pull config.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The R.30 isn't class A, true enough. But that hasn't anything to do with it being a push pull amp. You <i>can</i> get push pull class A amps... ;)

http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.p ... d,parallel


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Yeah, isnt it a push pull amp that has been biased to be class a to give it lots of nice crossover distorion, or is my brain failing me?
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Post by Amoun » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:35 pm

i thought that a tubes dissipation referred to heat and had nothing to do with power output at all

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