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Post by brinktile » Fri May 25, 2007 9:40 pm

Sweet, I'll give it a try.

What do you think about the combination pedals with 2 switches a Boost and a switch for the gain?

Jarred.

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Post by Knuckle Bones » Fri May 25, 2007 10:16 pm

Here's how a boost pedals works...I think it's been stated but not this simply.

1. In front of the amp on the overdrive channel (meaning guitar>boost>amp). This will basically give you more overdrive and not much of a volume boost.
2. In the effects loop. This will give you a true volume increase due to it's position in the signal path.

Now, on the clean channel it will give you a volume boost either way.

If you are using an overdrive pedal for your dirty sound put the boost AFTER the OD pedal for a volume boost. Put it BEFORE the OD pedal to add more gain.
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Post by brinktile » Fri May 25, 2007 10:18 pm

Got It!

Thanks. No comment on the combo type ZVEX pedals?

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Post by Hgain » Fri May 25, 2007 11:17 pm

I use a Zvex Super Hard On (SHO) pedal with my Rocker 30 , Ad-15 and Tiny T. etc. It is a killer boost pedal that is transparent to the ear. I adjust my amp to where I want the tone and put the volume at about 8 on my guitar vol pot...then when I want to rip , I hit the vol pot and/or the SHO and it really works well....Have not tried the 2 in one Zvex..My Rocker 30 and TT have the gain I need....Once you start adding allot of Non-Orange Gain via a pedal , you begin to destroy the sound character of the Orange amp...The SHO does not do that and thats why I use it ONLY......Try the Zvex stuff.. it is very good. There are other good ways to go as people have mentioned the other very good boost brands....but I like the SHO the best. 8)
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Post by brinktile » Sat May 26, 2007 2:13 am

Hey thanks for the input. I picked up a Demeter Fat overdrive pedal a little while ago. I think it will do the trick just fine in conjunction with my RC Boost. I'll update you later tonight when I have time to plug in.

Thanks, Jarred.

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Post by starfly59 » Sat May 26, 2007 5:32 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by brinktile</i>
<br />Sweet, I'll give it a try.

What do you think about the combination pedals with 2 switches a Boost and a switch for the gain?

Jarred.
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Hope it helps. (:

That new Fulltone pedal GT-500 or something that's coming out is wired like that and I think the ZVex Box of rock is like that. Also, the Diamond J-Drive is. Nice concept and I'm sure they all sound great.

For me, I use the Fulltone Fulldrive II MOSFET (basically it's two different switches for gain levels with the second switch giving only a slight volume boost) and the Electro Harmonix LPB-1 (a nice but cheap boost pedal) as a full volume boost after the Fulltone. I also have the MI Audio Crunchbox set for more Marshall-like, thicker tones. It's in between the LPB-1 and Fulldrive so I can boost it's gain with the Fulldrive (LOTS of gain!) or boost it's volume with the LPB-1. That's a lot of dirt options, plenty for me!
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Post by Orphin » Sat May 26, 2007 10:43 am

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by brinktile</i>
<br />I need a good boost pedal, any suggestions? I've Got a Tube screamer and an RC boost. They dont boost my signal enough for lead work, even when cranked all the way up.

What is everyone using for a boost?

Thanks, Jarred.
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Sorry, I haven't read all your replys, but I'll chip in with my two cents.
First of all, do you need a gain boost or volume boost?
If you want volume boost you should plug your RC boost through your FX loop. Input for gain boost.

Otherwise I wouldn't believe that any other boost pedal will be any better, cause the RC boost is a very popular boost. Maybe you need something else? A treble boost perhaps? Or maybe a Zvex super hard on which operates a little diffently than a regular boost..
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Post by brinktile » Sun May 27, 2007 2:27 am

Hey David, I need a volume boost. But I have no FX loop in my Retro 50 head. The problem was that I had a great overdriven sound that I loved with my gain around 2 or 3 o'clock, but when I went into a lead the boost just didnt deliver. It wasnt loud enough. So I backed down the gain and the boost is great, but I loose that overdriven sound. Thus the problem.

Having said that I think I have it fixed. I just need to run a gain boost, then a volume boost. I bought a Demeter fat overdrive pedal to put in front of my RC Boost. I havent had a chance to see if it will do the job.

I'll report back shortly. I just dont want to loose any of my Retro 50 tone. Because it sounds unbelievable "RAW" without a pedal.

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Post by brinktile » Sun May 27, 2007 5:32 am

THIS JUST IN!!!

Demeter fat overdrive pedal is PHAAT!! I just set it up in front of my RC Boost than into my Retro 50. Awesome tones plus I've got a good solid boost level with the RC. Still prefer my Retro dry, but I need a boost and this works perfect, plus a wide variety of tones.

I Turn down on the gain to 10 o'clock, volume up around 1-2 o'clock and WHOOOAH!!

I'm impressed with both pedals, no hiss or noticeable noise with my guitar cranked and not playing anything. I guess I'll never need my noisegate. And with the right settings on the Demeter I can dial in a perfect boost for rhythms without loosing my all important "Orange" sound. This was the most expensive pedal I ever bought, $300, and worth it.

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Post by theinteriorleague » Tue May 29, 2007 6:55 pm

I had the zvex 2-in-1. The second boost didn't add anything useable.

The Fulltone gt-500 is supposed to be out in late july/early august, assumming you are early enough on the preorder lists. It is nice in that you can switch the order of the boost and overdrive.

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Post by rrrajo » Tue May 29, 2007 6:56 pm

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<br />THIS JUST IN!!!
.....And with the right settings on the Demeter .....This was the most expensive pedal I ever bought, $300, and worth it.

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Post by brinktile » Wed May 30, 2007 5:21 am

Thats the truth, but they sure are quiet when I'm not playing :)

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Post by lvmuthearth » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:05 am

anyone use the fat boost pedal (fulltone, I think...)??
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Post by hmmikey » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:34 pm

Try to track down an old Boss FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz, set it to 'Gain Boost' mode & sit back and enjoy.

The only thing that comes close is the MXR Micro Amp, but you don't get the option to balance out Treble & Bass with that.
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Post by hmmikey » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:34 pm

Try to track down an old Boss FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz, set it to 'Gain Boost' mode & sit back and enjoy.

The only thing that comes close is the MXR Micro Amp, but you don't get the option to balance out Treble & Bass with that.
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