Orange Questions - Answered by Jason of Orange USA

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:00 pm

can you explain why the twin channel ad series amps were not supplied with a footswitch? it is no longer a problem for me because i purchased the orange footswitch, but an amp of this quality (and price) should at least come with a footswitch. i could understand if orange didnt make a footswitch but the fact that orange does and you have to buy it separately never set right with me considering that even a $200 crate comes with a footswitch.

User · Post by **User** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:23 pm

Hi, Jason, i just tried sending you an email, but your [email protected], doesn't seem to work? Have you got a new one?

Dave

bassdrop · Post by **bassdrop** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:06 pm

How is the bias adjusted on the AD200? I was looking into upgrading to KT88s. Has there been any experimenting in Georgia with that?

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:42 pm

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Hi Jason, there is much confusion with ohms. Can we hook up 2x8 ohm cabs in the 2x8 ohm outs on the amps? Several of us have combos with 2x16 ohm V30's (8 ohm cab), are we able to add an ext cab at all? If not, why were these combos loaded with these speakers?
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Thanks for the post Warty. You've raised some interesting issues! I'll touch base with Orange UK on this one and get back to you.

Jason


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I'm still on this... I'll post some info soon...

Jason

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:47 pm

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Jason, recently purchased the Rockerverb 50 combo and love it! Was wondering what the Hi/Low Output Damping switch is for? Thanks.

-orangenoise

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I saw you already spoke to the UK office and got the answer to this one, but for the benefit of others on the board here it is:



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Just talked with orange about the damping switch . The lo damping lets
the currency faster to the output valve ( that will lead to a loser
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Jason

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:05 pm

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can you explain why the twin channel ad series amps were not supplied with a footswitch? it is no longer a problem for me because i purchased the orange footswitch, but an amp of this quality (and price) should at least come with a footswitch. i could understand if orange didnt make a footswitch but the fact that orange does and you have to buy it separately never set right with me considering that even a $200 crate comes with a footswitch.

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As you can use any latching footswitch with our amps, we felt it would be fairer to let the consumer decide if they wanted to pay a premium for the Orange one. It is difficult for us to be competitive with other more commercial companies that manufacture thousands of footswitches at a time. Also we figured that there would be people who already owned footswitches and would rather use those than spend an extra $35 on their amplifier.

Basically it came down to either offering our customers a choice or forcing them to pay an extra $35. Hopefully in the future we will be able to reduce the price of the footswitch and include them as standard.
Jason

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:13 pm

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Hi, Jason, i just tried sending you an email, but your [email protected], doesn't seem to work? Have you got a new one?

Dave
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The general enquiry email is [email protected] and you can always reach us by phone on 404-303-8196.

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Feel free to email me directly though Dave. I'll look out for it.

Jason

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:17 pm

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How is the bias adjusted on the AD200? I was looking into upgrading to KT88s. Has there been any experimenting in Georgia with that?

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I'm not a great person to ask technical questions. It's often best to just create a new thread and throw it open to the board. There are people on here with way more technical knowledge than me! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

I will however, contact Orange UK and find out for you. Watch this space...

Jason.

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:29 pm

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I'm also curious about the very early 3 digit serial numbers. How many were there of these? Did each model have it's own sequence or were all models included in one?

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Sooner
OR-AD15-12
Serial No. 001

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The funny thing is I remember that exact amplifier from my days of working at Rhodes Music in Denmark St, London! The Orange guys brought it in to show us the new designs. I believe it came from a "pre-production" run of about 10 pieces. There were also about 10 AD30H's. Each model type was numbered from 001 upwards.

What makes it even crazier is the fact that the AD15 #001 was never meant to be sold! It was the first AD series amplifier ever to be made and also the first amplifier built by the new Orange company. The management wanted to keep it, but it accidentally got sold... To you! So I guess you should definitely hang on to it <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Jason

orangenoise · Post by **orangenoise** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:19 pm

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I'm also curious about the very early 3 digit serial numbers. How many were there of these? Did each model have it's own sequence or were all models included in one?

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Sooner
OR-AD15-12
Serial No. 001

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The funny thing is I remember that exact amplifier from my days of working at Rhodes Music in Denmark St, London! The Orange guys brought it in to show us the new designs. I believe it came from a "pre-production" run of about 10 pieces. There were also about 10 AD30H's. Each model type was numbered from 001 upwards.

What makes it even crazier is the fact that the AD15 #001 was never meant to be sold! It was the first AD series amplifier ever to be made and also the first amplifier built by the new Orange company. The management wanted to keep it, but it accidentally got sold... To you! So I guess you should definitely hang on to it <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Jason


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Wow, looks like Sooner has a collectible on his hands. Nice. Wonder what that will be worth a few years down the road?

-orangenoise

User · Post by **User** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:51 pm

It would be nice if Orange could have it, i would try and get a couple of heads, cabs and combo's in exchange <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave

Admin · Post by **Admin** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:18 pm

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How is the bias adjusted on the AD200? I was looking into upgrading to KT88s. Has there been any experimenting in Georgia with that?

<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Apparently the KT88's only work with the AD200B Mk III, I think they moved some stuff around in order for them to physically fit.

The amp should be re-biased by an amp tech every time you switch out the tubes on the AD200B. If it's biased too "cold", and it won't sound good, and if it's biased too "hot" you will get through tubes quickly and maybe overheat some of the amps components. I'm told that the bigger tubes vary a lot more so even when you change to a new set of tubes of the same brand and type, you should still re-bias.

With regards to how you actually re-bias the amp? That goes beyond the scope of my knowledge. Perhaps someone here can advise you, but I would always recommend a qualified amp tech that you trust. Ask in your local guitar store or look online. If you can't find anyone then give me a call at 404-303-8196 and I'll have someone here track down a tech in your area.

Jason

acepdistra · Post by **acepdistra** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:21 pm

Sooner, looks like we both have rare Oranges, you however are in the lucky position of knowing a bit more about yours than I do about mine.

Wanna form a gang? lol

Jason can you help with identifying my amp at all? I have tried contacting Matamp and Orange and so far only have Matamp's view.

I tried phoning Orange UK and was advised to contact David Hines.

All the details are in my posting in the "Serial Numbers" section under the topics -

Can anyone help identify this? Updated Pictures!
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1964 Matamp Series 2000 with Orange faceplate

If you read through the posts you will notice that it ends with me trying to contact Orange, as it appears the information I require is going to come from someone who was there at the time it was built.

Like Sooner I would be happy to see this go to Orange or Matamp,but not being a guitarist I would rather swap it for an Orange liveried motorcycle, (think of the advertising possibilities !).<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Andy

Matt_plan-R · Post by **Matt_plan-R** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:27 pm

I am looking to replace my power tubes in my AD30HTC...

Currently there are Ei Yugoslavian EL84's

I am interested in Harma STR EL84 (Watford Valves).

Do I need to get it rebiased??? I know that it is a cathode based, Class A amp... but the guy from watford said I should get it biased... I am confused.

Thanks!!!

Edited by - Matt_plan-R on 16 Jul 2004 21:30:11

Kelsey · Post by **Kelsey** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:15 pm

I posted a similar question about retubing my AD15/12, so I'd really appreciate a definitive answer as well.

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