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One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by erogers » Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:28 am

Hello all,

Right now I’m running two PPC212 closed back cabinets with Vintage 30s with my Dual Dark 50 amp, and have been wondering if it’s basically the same as a PPC412, or if there would be tonal differences between these two setups. Unfortunately, I don’t have the opportunity to try my amp with a PPC412 cab. Would anyone mind giving some descriptions of the tonal variations between these two options? How would they differ? What could I expect if going to a PPC412 from two PPC212 cabs? Thanks.
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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by Jondog » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:45 pm

I can't give you much description between differences of the two scenarios, but I would suspect they would sound similar, maybe a little more bass frequency from the 4x12, not as tight. The speaker cones will react a little different and the speakers won't be exact either in terms of break in and different impedance/wiring. Personally I like the dual 2x12 look.
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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by bclaire » Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:42 pm

Sonically, I doubt that there is any discernible difference.

Your back, however, appreciates the two lighter cabs.... ;-)

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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by Jondog » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:07 pm

bclaire wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:42 pm
Sonically, I doubt that there is any discernible difference.

Your back, however, appreciates the two lighter cabs.... ;-)
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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by erogers » Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:13 am

Thanks, guys. That helps me a lot. I guess you always wonder about what you don’t have. I kind of figured there wouldn’t be much difference, and the ease of moving the 212s vs a 412 is a great point, too!
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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by Boy_Narf » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:23 pm

I don't dig the 412 at all, you took the right path. After trying all of the main Orange cabs I think the PPC212CB is my favorite. Honestly the only cab I regret selling.

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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by bradleyd417 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:55 pm

Along this same topic, would it sound better to have a 212ob on top of a 212c or two 212c cabs?

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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by Boy_Narf » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:05 pm

Benefit of one of each is the OB will spread the sound around more. I had an OB for a night and didn't really dig it. I think for a more "consistent tone" a set of the CB would be my choice.

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Re: One PPC412 vs two PPC212 closed back cabinets

Post by bclaire » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:11 am

Boy_Narf wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:05 pm
Benefit of one of each is the OB will spread the sound around more. I had an OB for a night and didn't really dig it. I think for a more "consistent tone" a set of the CB would be my choice.
Depending on the type of venues you are playing, an open back cab will pretty much ensure that your drummer can hear you. Closed-back cabs tend to be very directional and it can be difficult for the drummer to hear.

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